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Old 11-06-2017, 09:14 AM   #1351 (permalink)
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Are you worried about your shoes slipping if muddy or wet and losing leverage on either pedal since the floor is slick aluminum? Just curious what your thoughts were on that. Looks killer as usual.

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I definitely don't think your feet will ever get cold. lol
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Are you worried about your shoes slipping if muddy or wet and losing leverage on either pedal since the floor is slick aluminum? Just curious what your thoughts were on that. Looks killer as usual.

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I would have left it solid and covered it with grip tape. With the dimples it will collect shit loads of dirt under it.
That's exactly why their placed so, no where for dirt to collect, both holes drain outside the belly pan and boat side skid; no worries about what enters the skids, I drop them after every trip to clean the belly out and inspect, the tires throw plenty up in the skids from the front anyway.

Grip tape can still be added later if I feel the need, never needed it in past rigs though.


And I can remove that panel with seat in, their are brake line connections there that may need to be tightened for some reason.

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There are hundreds of buggies with aluminum floors and no tape, and never had any issue on any of my last rigs. I will probably add a heel stop for my gas foot, similar to my buggy was; but my brake foot needs to slide, pedal has a long throw.

Btw, these Goatbuilt skids are certainly going to be much easier to drop versus previous set ups; looking forward to that convenience.
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:09 PM   #1354 (permalink)
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Are you worried about your shoes slipping if muddy or wet and losing leverage on either pedal since the floor is slick aluminum? Just curious what your thoughts were on that. Looks killer as usual.

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If you're buckled in a seat. I don't see any reason he be losing any leverage.

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Old 11-06-2017, 12:48 PM   #1355 (permalink)
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If you're buckled on a seat. I don't see any reason he be losing any leverage.

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Old 11-06-2017, 12:55 PM   #1356 (permalink)
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Are you bending that form one piece?

I know this is almost beating a dead horse at this point, but I love reading your explainations for why you did, or didnít, do certain things. Your thought processes and forward thinking makes me feel a little more Neanderthal than Iím used to
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:55 PM   #1357 (permalink)
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Gas pedal behind brake, reason it looks low. I drive two footed on the trails. I've got good leverage on the brake.

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That's interesting. So will you drive this thing single footed when on the street? I realize you might not be driving it lots on the street, but it is legal. (I think it would be a blast on the street)
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:02 PM   #1358 (permalink)
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Are you bending that form one piece?

I know this is almost beating a dead horse at this point, but I love reading your explainations for why you did, or didnít, do certain things. Your thought processes and forward thinking makes me feel a little more Neanderthal than Iím used to
I'm going to attempt to. That common corner isn't really common, there will be a cut there that should allow me to do it in one shot.... but if not, I'm not afraid to cut and weld and grind, I won't try it twice.

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That's interesting. So will you drive this thing single footed when on the street? I realize you might not be driving it lots on the street, but it is legal. (I think it would be a blast on the street)
Hard to say until I drive it, but probably won't have much choice., it's a stretch from one to the other, and the pedals are angled like the seat- towards the drivers side front tire about 10į.



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Old 11-06-2017, 03:51 PM   #1359 (permalink)
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The cup holder piece is kind of the keystone of the center tunnel section (albeit, the last piece that would be removed, so as to be a fully functional vehicle when all the panels are removed for cleaning.) So I added these skirts to aid in fastening the lower pieces.













Small storage spot below/ behind cup holders.








Tried to do this tunnel panel in one shot, but quickly determined wasn't going to happen, therefore I flanged all the sides and made two pieces.







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Old 11-06-2017, 05:54 PM   #1360 (permalink)
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Boy that cup holder turned out nice. When you weld those skirts on, do you butt weld or is there some overlap? Do you ever burn through and have to blob a bunch of al on it and grind it all down? If you don't, you make me sick.
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Boy that cup holder turned out nice. When you weld those skirts on, do you butt weld or is there some overlap? Do you ever burn through and have to blob a bunch of al on it and grind it all down? If you don't, you make me sick.
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Open corner, very little overlap. Yes, I still burn through from time to time, but I'm getting better. Still have a hard time with inside corner fillet, and lap joints, I like open corners.

Basically, if I've sanded a weld, it wasn't pretty enough to leave natural . Lol. (On aluminum anyway)

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Old 11-07-2017, 10:15 AM   #1362 (permalink)
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Open corner, very little overlap. Yes, I still burn through from time to time, but I'm getting better. Still have a hard time with inside corner fillet, and lap joints, I like open corners.

Basically, if I've sanded a weld, it wasn't pretty enough to leave natural . Lol. (On aluminum anyway)

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I was going to ask how it was joined - can't even tell it wasn't 1 piece to start with. Lots of envy of your skills over here - I need to make the time.
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I was going to ask how it was joined - can't even tell it wasn't 1 piece to start with. Lots of envy of your skills over here - I need to make the time.
Thank you. It takes time for sure.

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Drivers side aluminum is done, templates are close for passenger side. Try to knock it out today. Then onto the steel engine covers.














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Old 11-07-2017, 10:57 AM   #1365 (permalink)
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looks great... what bender are you using for your sheet metal work?
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looks great... what bender are you using for your sheet metal work?
Hi quality Chinese stuff, lol.


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I'm going to have to get me one of those 6" finger brakes. Another tool I find handy is a 4" vise grip seamer.

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I'm going to have to get me one of those 6" finger brakes. Another tool I find handy is a 4" vise grip seamer.

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Its handy dandy for sure.

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Old 11-07-2017, 01:15 PM   #1369 (permalink)
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Great work as usual. Question on those panels, are you going to be adding any foam or gasket type material where the panels meet to help reduce noise? I would think the panels would rattle slightly against each other.
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Great work as usual. Question on those panels, are you going to be adding any foam or gasket type material where the panels meet to help reduce noise? I would think the panels would rattle slightly against each other.
Time will tell. Never needed it in the past, (there's always that one exhaust resonance frequency zone that rattles everything, lol), but I go to great lengths to have some pre load on every piece on the circumference. That's why every edge has a broken lip, to 'lift' the panel off the base so that the screw has tension throughout.

Note: I don't add that final bend until every thing fits tight; then I put it in the brake, or hammer the edges to add that lift.

I'm sure I will be chasing down rattles for a bit. But I'll find them and remedy it somehow.

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Old 11-07-2017, 04:31 PM   #1371 (permalink)
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This machine is simply a work of art. Wish I had half of your fab skills.
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Really like the dimple holes in the floor to sweep shit out. Always look forward to the updates. Looking forward to seeing it at Koh!
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Really like the dimple holes in the floor to sweep shit out. Always look forward to the updates. Looking forward to seeing it at Koh!
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are you going to paint the aluminum or leave it raw? Just wondering, not criticizing
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Could you please take pic of that fastener apart. I've tried to zoom in, but just can't figure it out. It looks like a wire going across two rivets holding a button. I must be missing something.
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