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Old 04-09-2016, 10:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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limit cables

These were on a rig that I bought from mosebilt. I like the simplicity and non-stretch aspect. Anyone else using cables or know where I could source some?

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Rigging companies can make these to length. McMaster Carr even has them for lifting rigging.
It would be nice to see a Dyneema winch rope style. Spliced with eyelets of some sort that could be bolted.
The stretch is a good thing with webbing, to lessen the shock, that goes away with a non stretch line. Similar to mountain climbing with dynamic rope for fall shock absorbition vs rappelling with a static line so you don't bounce.

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Rigging companies can make these to length. McMaster Carr even has them for lifting rigging.
It would be nice to see a Dyneema winch rope style. Spliced with eyelets of some sort that could be bolted.
That would be great for ultimate weight savings
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I use to do these before my swedge tool was stolen. I used 5/16 cable. It worked great. Never had one fail. Even on a rockwell rig I built on 46" claws and stazworks 20x14's.
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I use to do these before my swedge tool was stolen. I used 5/16 cable. It worked great. Never had one fail. Even on a rockwell rig I built on 46" claws and stazworks 20x14's.
Not that limit straps are known to fail, but I am somewhat surprised these aren't more common.
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made my limiting traps from winch rope. i just have eylets welded to Axel and chassis. spliced the rope to them. its easy to adjust and just un splise when there is need for removal.

didnt splice the end inside the rope only goes 3 times trough it.
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I'd try Todd at custom splice, he's always willing to try new things.
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I used those on my last XJ. Started with chains (ran out of money for straps), replace the chains with the straps and hated how much they stretched, and ended up building cables from old winch cable I had (like Action Fab said-5/16"). I have a hydraulic hand swedge tool I picked up for $80 for making my own battery cables, ect, that has a few die for cables. I'll never build another limit strap again after the cables.
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Chains may rattle, but they're much more hackfab friendly.
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Chains may rattle, but they're much more hackfab friendly.
Not after hack-fab in the least. In my case, they are insurance (ORI's) for others why give up travel for future stretch or risk failure if a strap stretches too much? I'm looking for nice, custom swaged cables like I showed.

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If you are going a cable route I would plasti dip them after you have them made.

Cuts down on unsightly wear and safer (broke/frayed strands)
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Not after hack-fab in the least. In my case, they are insurance (ORI's) for others why give up travel for future stretch or risk failure if a strap stretches too much? I'm looking for nice, custom swaged cables like I showed.
Oh, I'm all for the easy way out.
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any logging company around there should be able to make them for you, I can get them made at cost for you if you are interested and want to drive an hour.
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If you are going a cable route I would plasti dip them after you have them made.

Cuts down on unsightly wear and safer (broke/frayed strands)
Now that idea is gold. I hadn't thought of that. I soldered the frayed ends but that was a PITA and strands always ended up coming loose anyhow.
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Now that idea is gold. I hadn't thought of that. I soldered the frayed ends but that was a PITA and strands always ended up coming loose anyhow.
Could you slide some fuel line over the cable and cover most of the cable minus the swage portion?
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Where do you source reasonably priced steel eyelets for 5/16" cable?
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Could you slide some fuel line over the cable and cover most of the cable minus the swage portion?
Easily. It would just need to be done prior to crimping the swedge clips. I wouldn't want to do that however as that'll hold mud, grim, water, ect. I'd rather be able to hit it with the pressure washer, let it dry, or seal it entirely. Plus with the hose over it the cable won't move freely like it would otherwise. Would that cause an issue? Probably not, I just don't like the idea. But that would work great for keeping the cable from chaffing anything.
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Where do you source reasonably priced steel eyelets for 5/16" cable?
Any hardware store. They're $2-3 a piece. I like the swedge clips as they're $0.10 a piece and can be "crimped" with a punch and hammer if you don't have a swedging tool-which are reasonable to buy as well.
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heat shrink over the cable before crimping. Once crimped shrink it down and it'l be water tight
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heat shrink over the cable before crimping. Once crimped shrink it down and it'l be water tight
I've done this. And then used bigger heat shrink, doubled up over the crimp.
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I've done this. And then used bigger heat shrink, doubled up over the crimp.
I like this idea better than the plasti-dip...
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I agree, that would look much nicer.
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Not saying you don't need them but I've aired out my 6,000lb 4runner more times than I would like to admit and haven't had any issues with my ori's. And that's with 14bolts and 43" sx's so a ton of weight unloading
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