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Old 08-21-2017, 10:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help me find generic power steering hose ends.

So i need to blend ps hoses and make shit that doesnt exist.

I can flare/double flare(45 & 37*), gm oring, and propperly bend my lines as needed but what i need is blank, straight, 12" long hose end tubing sections.

The hydro shops i went to and talked with only have short premade fittings with no material remaining to modify.

Thousand upon thousand of cars for the last 50years have used exactly this style of ps hose in a bajillio, different configuration.

I need a source for the ends, or a place that will build hoses with the ends so i can complete. 1 fitting i have no dou t i wont be able to buy as a lose component, everything else is standard outside of configuration.

This particular hose for display only, all i want is a hose made with blank straight tube ends.

Otherwise everthing just gets adapted to jic or an- and i build bulking stiff giant hoses myself.




And i need a 2qrt + cylidrical power steering resivior. Under 5" round, less that 16" long.
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It would help if we knew what you were attaching each end to.
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Speedway PS Res may fit your needs, but won't be 2qrts.

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Call Fosters in Grass Valley see if they can help you or send me the the exact sizes you need. They have bins and bins of random shit.
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It would help if we knew what you were attaching each end to.
3/8" steel is all that i need.

Shit is all over the map.

#8 jic to 16mm metric oring
14mm metric oring to +1/2" size invert flare via special tube nut.

Cummins industrial hydraulic steering pump to gm hydroboost to c60 steering box.

I dont need or want any fitting ends already in place. Just straight blank tube crimp on hose enda
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3/8 hard brake line tubing we have used. Dorman makes some foot long oring pieces with a metric nut.
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3/8" steel is all that i need.

Shit is all over the map.

#8 jic to 16mm metric oring
14mm metric oring to +1/2" size invert flare via special tube nut.

Cummins industrial hydraulic steering pump to gm hydroboost to c60 steering box.

I dont need or want any fitting ends already in place. Just straight blank tube crimp on hose enda
When I did it, I just brazed a JIC fitting onto the leftover steel section of the line that came with the hydroboost and made a JIC line to go from the ZF pump to the brazed fitting. Zero issues in about 50k miles (other then blowing the seals out of a very worn out steering box).
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Old 08-22-2017, 07:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
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3/8 hard brake line tubing we have used. Dorman makes some foot long oring pieces with a metric nut.
I dont need just a small piece of tubing, i need a hose end thst has the tubing on it
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Okay sort of can help I have in the past purchased a hose end that goes to a compression fitting, which you can put any piece to tube you want. In my case I cut the flared sealing end off of the leaky line and put it into the compression fitting, then crimped the hose. I believe I was working with weatherhead type fittings back then, I use gates now, not sure if they have that type of hose end


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Maybe something like this


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No those are 3" long. I want 12+
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Okay sort of can help I have in the past purchased a hose end that goes to a compression fitting, which you can put any piece to tube you want. In my case I cut the flared sealing end off of the leaky line and put it into the compression fitting, then crimped the hose. I believe I was working with weatherhead type fittings back then, I use gates now, not sure if they have that type of hose end


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Nope. Not what i want either.

I can handle adapting to the tubing many different ways.
I dont want additional fittings and connections. I want the tubing and the crimp hose end intrigal to eachother
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The hydro shop up my way that I use is pretty good with this stuff and typically has everything on hand.

Now that I better understand what you are trying to do if I had the correct ends in my hands I could go to them and see what they could do to try to help.

Lemme know if you want to throw the stuff in a box and I'll give em a shot.


The guy that does my shit always looks at me like this but he produces lol
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So you want a crimp on hose end with 12" of bare tube on it Then? Yeah the only thing I've Delt with is an adapter that's crimp on to hose and compression to put the tube end. And I do hydraulics for a living. Not saying they don't make it, just saying you may not be able to get it


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Thats where im at. Obvioulsy they make them.

Can they be bought?
Where?
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3/8" steel is all that i need.

Shit is all over the map.

#8 jic to 16mm metric oring
14mm metric oring to +1/2" size invert flare via special tube nut.

Cummins industrial hydraulic steering pump to gm hydroboost to c60 steering box.

I dont need or want any fitting ends already in place. Just straight blank tube crimp on hose enda
Any reason why can't you reuse original hard lines at Cummins industrial hydraulic's steering pump, 2x GM hydroboost (in and out), 2x C60 steering box (in and out) and figure out how long hose need to be between them and have your local hydraulic shop to install hoses and crimp them on?
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Ive always used Pirtek for my 1 off hoses- My PS hose looks nearly identical to yours. They make them on the spot to length, etc
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Sounds like you want actually perform the swage onto hose length of choice.

I get lazy and go to Hydraulic power Sales in Rancho Cordova to make. Last resort if can't source off-the-shelf.

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Bad news is that retail hose makers suck at findi,g nonconventional components.

Good news is pakers tech dept cam through with a pn# of exactly what i was looking for.

1zg26-8-8

3/8 crimp on hose end with 25" blank steel tube end.
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Sounds like you want actually perform the swage onto hose length of choice.

I get lazy and go to Hydraulic power Sales in Rancho Cordova to make. Last resort if can't source off-the-shelf.

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Any reason why can't you reuse original hard lines at Cummins industrial hydraulic's steering pump, 2x GM hydroboost (in and out), 2x C60 steering box (in and out) and figure out how long hose need to be between them and have your local hydraulic shop to install hoses and crimp them on?
Yeah there is a reason. No one has any shit to make hoses thats not a 2" long fitting
Or with out adapting to jicf then rigid tubing.

Hot hose & fitting, not pertik, not hps, not fluidtech, not wester intgrated. They all only have premade short fitti,gs. And adapters.
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Passed the pn# to hose & fitting, guy hammered his keyboard a few times and they are now on their way to the store.
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Post a pic of them When you receive them. I have been hoping to find something like that for a while now. And price if you don't mind.
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$14ea. Had to order 5 though. I assume thats a package worth.
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Something to consider when plumbing something like you have described. Vibrations from the engine and chassis will resonate through the hardlines. Be sure to clamp them in place and let the hose do the flexing.
I tried to use a lot of hardline on my buggy plumbing. I had some line failures and ended up going to flex line as a solution. Something to keep in mind.
Vinyl covered "p" clamps work well in mobile equipment environments.
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