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Old 01-29-2018, 05:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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3DB Crawler build by Cutlerfab

Good friend and trail riding buddy, David Minton- @3DCrawler on NC4x4, started a build on this yj. He also previously owned Twisted 40. He's a busy man, and when he realized I might have a hole in my schedule, the phone rang.

It comes to me as pictured. The perfect project, with all the heavy work complete, with none of the cleanup and grinding... yay! It has the full @motobuilt gamut; subframe with link mounts, high line inner rear fenders, comp corners, rockers, front and rear bumpers, fuel cell, battery tray, rear truss, @Artec front truss, @fox 2" emulsion coil overs, eibach springs, aluminum links, lsx? (This is the mock up block) , built th350, atlas, winter's shifter, @PSC steering, @trailready wheels, sticky 43 sx's, and @PRP Seats and harnesses.

David has tasked me with completing this unit in my own way, creative freedom; with emphasis on a 'fast look' with a low COG. Like I said, the perfect project.

This will be fun...




















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Old 01-29-2018, 05:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This is going to be awesome! I can't wait to see what you come up with next.


And a HUGE thanks for continuing to post your bad ass builds here on Pirate for all if us non Facebook/Instagram people to drool on.
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This is going to be awesome! I can't wait to see what you come up with next.


And a HUGE thanks for continuing to post your bad ass builds here on Pirate for all if us non Facebook/Instagram people to drool on.
Thank you. I believe in forum tech sharing. I do list pretty pictures on Instagram (cutlerfab) but that's about it outside of forums.

I realize there won't be a lot of ground breaking tech... hell even my truck had none. This won't be a race car, just an east coast trail badass. But, hopefully the fabrication and putting my swing on a typical formula rig (v8, tons, links, 43's) will be enough to stay here in general 4x4 versus hardcore jeep.

For a precursor, it will receive a very unique dash, engine cage, front inner fenders and engine bay...

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FIINNNNNNEEEE i guess I will watch this one too
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I was so sad that I finished the manche build. this should keep me entertained.
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Old 01-30-2018, 03:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I was so sad that I finished the manche build. this should keep me entertained.
I'll try my best!

Two full days (but only about 8 hours of actual labor&#129315....

Lots of brainstorming, cigarettes, Pepsi, mountain dew, pbj's and ramen noodles, pulling tape, plumb bobs, drawing, sketching, more brainstorming, leveling, raising, lowering, leveling again, stiff legging, stoking the woodstove, another cigarette, brainstorm...ehh, you get the picture....


Anywho, it has achieved its new full bump. Any further would require channeling the motobilt rear back half, and pizza cutting or channeling and plating the front frame ahead of the motor mounts.

New bump position with 0 psi in tires: (trusses are welded to stanchions and the frame- for repeatability of correct height through any suspension action. But they are accessible to break free easily, and clear of area for bump stop can mounting).

16.25 belly
1/4 clearance on metal contact at all 4 corners
Planning for 6+" up travel for a rough net belly height of 22.5"
Channeled the bed and floor for upper link clearance
Removed center grill support to allow for truss clearance
Still need to adjust the spread on the front upper links for a little more motor clearance






















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Old 01-30-2018, 06:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm in. At least I know you're not keeping this one ahead of time, no chance for disappointment.
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Pumped to follow along! .. I've always loved it when the links come up into the tub ha!
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm in. At least I know you're not keeping this one ahead of time, no chance for disappointment.
The manche is still here... don't get all sentimental yet
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Pumped to follow along! .. I've always loved it when the links come up into the tub ha!
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I’m curious as to your opinion on the Motobilt stuff be the Goatbuilt stuff.
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Iím curious as to your opinion on the Motobilt stuff be the Goatbuilt stuff.
Both very nice units.

Different products for different levels of fabrication/ car building skills. Dan has always built top notch stuff, but to a slightly different target customer than Drew, imo. You make what sells to your target consumer!

Both vendors products are cut and broken very nicely with clean edges. I didn't install the motobilt products on the frame, but they look nice and are located square. I believe they weld the assemblies together in house, and I assume they use a jig. The Goatbuilt subframe was not welded, and it shouldn't be for what Drew sells them for. But it went together so well with tabs and slots, and very squarely.

I haven't run the 4 link numbers on this jeep yet, but I will and give a side by side comparison to the Goatbuilt subframe on the Comanche. Should be a neat look, considering they're both 115 wb, and the rear lowers are the same length, but the yj has a much longer front length lowers than the manche, 40+ versus 35 and change.

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Old 02-04-2018, 04:19 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Super____ Sunday whaat? Screw that noise.... super shop day...

























.... Going back out to shop shortly, kids on 3 hour delay, so I'm working 3rd shift to make up for missed time in the a.m.


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Can't keep me away. I'll try not to bug you too much on this one.
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Did I miss something? Do you have a plasma table?
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Can't keep me away. I'll try not to bug you too much on this one.
You don't bug me friend. This is a tech sharing forum.
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Did I miss something? Do you have a plasma table?
No sir. Just a handheld thermal dynamics 38xl. Everything I do is cut free hand or straight edge guide. Cleaned up and sanded/ polished by hand. Matte board templates.

(The owner provided the jeep base plates from motobilt- the boxing and all are mine.)

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Some beefy cage feet. It looks like you left just enough room for a side plate between the tub and tube, or is that just to keep them from rubbing?
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Is this project going to be paint/powder or some kind of Sharkhide stuff?
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Some beefy cage feet. It looks like you left just enough room for a side plate between the tub and tube, or is that just to keep them from rubbing?
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Is this project going to be paint/powder or some kind of Sharkhide stuff?
There will actually be about 1/2" removed each side. Once the cage is pulled for final weld.



I believe David plans to powder the cage.

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No sir. Just a handheld thermal dynamics 38xl. Everything I do is cut free hand or straight edge guide. Cleaned up and sanded/ polished by hand. Matte board templates.

(The owner provided the jeep base plates from motobilt- the boxing and all are mine.)

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The slotted holes where throwing me.

I do think having a small plasma table at home would be nice, especially for repeats. With the ability to edge scan a template it could even speed up one off templates from paper templates. Router functions. Heck, don't get me started about Incremental Sheetmetal Forming ideas.

Is it required to do awesome home fab, nope.
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