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Old 12-21-2018, 12:40 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Not an apples to apples compare, Crane does not make a JK 44 knuckle.
I also searched around and I could not find any broken JK 44 reid knuckles.
There are have been some other broken 44 and 60 knuckles, but anything can blow if you try hard enough.
I'd also bet there are 1000 Reid knuckles sold for ever 1 crane or solid
we get it youre a reid fan boy
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we get it youre a reid fan boy
I was also approached at King of the Hammers years and years ago to paint my knuckles green for money, that's always left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Thanks for all of the great things you have posted about Crane Axle. One question was asked about what make one brand less expensive than the other two. Our products are made right here in the USA! They are cast and machined here. Not just assembled or packaged. We also use 8620 Chromo in all of the parts you guys have listed in this thread. That keeps our prices higher than some others. It also means you will get a good part.





I'm going to please ask welndmn and any one else that was rubbed the wrong way by previous owners of the company to realize that was not the current owners asking you to do that. I can 100 percent see where that rubbed you wrong. We purchased Crane and we know we purchased all of it. Even the bad. But please know that the current owners and employee's of Crane don't operate like that.


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Welder Bills knuckles for the win
WB's are the only non cast right?

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WB's are the only non cast right?

Surprised of only one mention.
TG makes fabbed knuckles for BJ d60s
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TG makes fabbed knuckles for BJ d60s


ya, but you gotta buy the unit bearings for em and who knows what else.

Bill's knuckles use the factory outer stuff, Chevy or Ford...Whatever your running.
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ya, but you gotta buy the unit bearings for em and who knows what else.

Bill's knuckles use the factory outer stuff, Chevy or Ford...Whatever your running.
TG knuckles are for 99-04 ford axles, not older king pin stuff

if you were putting them on your 99-04 axle you could reuse all your parts just like you can with WB knuckles.

i wasnt advocating him to buy the TG knuckles(i wouldnt), just answering his question
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There was a guy/shop here selling plate kits for stock knuckles. $100 IIRC
Those were on my list but then I my PS Ford KP.

So another Reid supporter.
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Thanks for all of the great things you have posted about Crane Axle. One question was asked about what make one brand less expensive than the other two. Our products are made right here in the USA! They are cast and machined here. Not just assembled or packaged. We also use 8620 Chromo in all of the parts you guys have listed in this thread. That keeps our prices higher than some others. It also means you will get a good part.





I'm going to please ask welndmn and any one else that was rubbed the wrong way by previous owners of the company to realize that was not the current owners asking you to do that. I can 100 percent see where that rubbed you wrong. We purchased Crane and we know we purchased all of it. Even the bad. But please know that the current owners and employee's of Crane don't operate like that.



Good attitude.
Do cranes require a proprietary steering arm, or do others make keyed arms as well?
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TG knuckles are for 99-04 ford axles, not older king pin stuff

if you were putting them on your 99-04 axle you could reuse all your parts just like you can with WB knuckles.

i wasnt advocating him to buy the TG knuckles(i wouldnt), just answering his question

I was just curious. Had not been keeping track real close but I had not noticed any others not cast.


Not in the market..... Got WB's front and rear.
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I was just curious. Had not been keeping track real close but I had not noticed any others not cast.


Not in the market..... Got WB's front and rear.



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Link to welder bill knuckles you speak of? My google foo is weak tonight!
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There was a guy/shop here selling plate kits for stock knuckles. $100 IIRC
Those were on my list but then I my PS Ford KP.

So another Reid supporter.
I used the DIY weld on beef for mine. Pictures in my buggy build thread. No issues so far. Fingers crossed....
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And they rock....No?
Only breakage I was able to find was Camo and his comment was:
"steer arms were made from 1" plate and I ripped one almost in half but the attachment point wasn't phased".

The only 'issue' I've found is the arms may be a bit short for use with a Ruffstuff diff cover.

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Link to welder bill knuckles you speak of? My google foo is weak tonight!
AFAIK, he doesn't have a web site and I don't have his number handy.

Last time I talked with him, it sounded like he wasn't fabbing them anymore. I got the one off his floor ~2 years ago.
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Last time I talked with him, it sounded like he wasn't fabbing them anymore. I got the one off his floor ~2 years ago.




His issue with his knuckles is that the place he has cut them requires ten thousand dollars worth be cut...Then he has to sit on all the material and cost until he sells everything.

They aren't cheap either

Some friends and my kid got the last of them that he had and he told me he had no intention of building more unless the money was up front to have em all cut.

He did also say that he had a couple of things he would update...the bottom plate being one of them.
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His issue with his knuckles is that the place he has cut them requires ten thousand dollars worth be cut...Then he has to sit on all the material and cost until he sells everything.

They aren't cheap either

Some friends and my kid got the last of them that he had and he told me he had no intention of building more unless the money was up front to have em all cut.

He did also say that he had a couple of things he would update...the bottom plate being one of them.
I found the price on the one I got to be reasonable... it felt like a wash if you include getting the housing setup correct(width and caster)

I got the same comment about the updates
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I found the price on the one I got to be reasonable... it felt like a wash if you include getting the housing setup correct(width and caster)

I got the same comment about the updates




Kinda sounds like he did your housing when he did my housing...i remember seeing yours there. I already had my knuckles I just did a housing upgrade.
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Do cranes require a proprietary steering arm, or do others make keyed arms as well?
I have been looking and haven't found anyone else making steering arms for Crane knuckles. If anyone knows, please post up where.

I welded my C's on to have 12* caster and I now have a coilover and the arms wanting to be in the same place when turned full lock.


I believe Crane and Reid are the only ones making C's and knuckles for the bigger 1550/and bigger joints.
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There was a guy/shop here selling plate kits for stock knuckles. $100 IIRC
Those were on my list but then I my PS Ford KP.

So another Reid supporter.

For people searching thereís a thread with links to other threads about knuckle plating. Iíve plated mine and so far so good Iím not real hard on stuff. But we plated my buddies stock ford knuckles when we did mine. They had cracked we drilled hole welded up. Then plated over it and they cracked again. Very little time on them after the plating no hydro steering a mud truck on 39.5 boggers. So Iím convinced knuckle plating is good addition too but not a band aid to a cracked knuckle.


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I have been looking and haven't found anyone else making steering arms for Crane knuckles. If anyone knows, please post up where.

I welded my C's on to have 12* caster and I now have a coilover and the arms wanting to be in the same place when turned full lock.


I believe Crane and Reid are the only ones making C's and knuckles for the bigger 1550/and bigger joints.

I'm not aware of any one else building arms that fir our knuckles. We build arms here for the knuckles though.

As far as I know we are the only ones that build a complete kit that can include every thing that you need in a one stop shop.

If your looking for some thing that we don't already offer let us know what it is. We are always looking to better the product line.
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His issue with his knuckles is that the place he has cut them requires ten thousand dollars worth be cut...Then he has to sit on all the material and cost until he sells everything.

They aren't cheap either

Some friends and my kid got the last of them that he had and he told me he had no intention of building more unless the money was up front to have em all cut.

He did also say that he had a couple of things he would update...the bottom plate being one of them.
$10k minimum? WTF? Something's weird there. Maybe for the best price break, but laser/plasma cutters are like Starbucks. Hell, if you want to pay for it there are places like BigBlueSaw that will cut one set.

Maybe he should partner w RuffStuff and let them do all the work and pay him a royalty.
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I'm going to please ask welndmn and any one else that was rubbed the wrong way by previous owners of the company to realize that was not the current owners asking you to do that. I can 100 percent see where that rubbed you wrong. We purchased Crane and we know we purchased all of it. Even the bad. But please know that the current owners and employee's of Crane don't operate like that.
Ah, I had no idea it was sold to you guys. I always had great service from you.
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