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Old 02-10-2020, 12:33 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Hell yeah! That adjustable steering wheel/controls unit is tits! Hope you have all the CAD files saved. LOL
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Awesome build indeed!
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Nice job so far man!
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I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if they would fit in it so they could take it for a spin...lol.
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awesome

what are you planning on running for the rear brakes?
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Hell yeah! That adjustable steering wheel/controls unit is tits! Hope you have all the CAD files saved. LOL
Thanks it's pretty slick, have quite a few people putting them on their buggy's so their kids can drive.

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I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if they would fit in it so they could take it for a spin...lol.
Lol, I'm 5'10" and my head sticks over the top of the cage tubes a good inch

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what are you planning on running for the rear brakes?
Thanks, running the Trail Gear budget disc brake kit
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Old 02-11-2020, 08:36 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Thanks it's pretty slick, have quite a few people putting them on their buggy's so their kids can drive.
Is that some thing you sell?
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I'm not a vendor on here so I can't discuss anything, but yes
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Couple quick questions. How much cheaper do you think it is to build a kids buggy such as this compared to a full size buggy. I know there are some cheaper things in the parts list, but ultimately, it's most of the same parts list just scaled down/detuned. Drivetrain seems like the biggest savings.

Also, what do you think about using a pair of Waggy Dana 44s rather Toyota axles? I know the Toyota axles are lighter and arguably stronger, but I have a set of offset passenger drop Dana 44s sitting around. Should match up with a Zuk tcase.
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Couple quick questions. How much cheaper do you think it is to build a kids buggy such as this compared to a full size buggy. I know there are some cheaper things in the parts list, but ultimately, it's most of the same parts list just scaled down/detuned. Drivetrain seems like the biggest savings.

Also, what do you think about using a pair of Waggy Dana 44s rather Toyota axles? I know the Toyota axles are lighter and arguably stronger, but I have a set of offset passenger drop Dana 44s sitting around. Should match up with a Zuk tcase.
When it comes down to it, cost is almost exactly the same as building a full size buggy, there's not much at all that's cheaper. Even the drive train is expensive when you have to buy a complete 4wheeler for the motor/trans, no different than buying junkyard LS and TH350. You save money on a sami case vs an altas, but you could also run a 205 or 300 in a fullsize buggy which is cheaper than a sami. Axles I literally have more money in than building up 60's as Toyota's are a fortune when you upgrade every single thing. Chassis and suspension isn't any different cost wise cause being only a few inches smaller. I'll have between$25-$30k in this thing by the time I'm done. You can easily build a decent fullsize buggy for $30k or buy a heck of a lot nicer used fullsize buggy for $30k. Granted I didn't really spare any expenses on this car and it could definitely be built for $5-10K cheaper with less fancy parts and finding good deals on used stuff vs buying new.

D44 are a good option if you have them, I just don't prefer how heavy they are for the performance I'm looking to get out of this car. They'll still probably be plenty strong enough though regardless.
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When it comes down to it, cost is almost exactly the same as building a full size buggy, there's not much at all that's cheaper. Even the drive train is expensive when you have to buy a complete 4wheeler for the motor/trans, no different than buying junkyard LS and TH350. You save money on a sami case vs an altas, but you could also run a 205 or 300 in a fullsize buggy which is cheaper than a sami. Axles I literally have more money in than building up 60's as Toyota's are a fortune when you upgrade every single thing. Chassis and suspension isn't any different cost wise cause being only a few inches smaller. I'll have between$25-$30k in this thing by the time I'm done. You can easily build a decent fullsize buggy for $30k or buy a heck of a lot nicer used fullsize buggy for $30k. Granted I didn't really spare any expenses on this car and it could definitely be built for $5-10K cheaper with less fancy parts and finding good deals on used stuff vs buying new.

D44 are a good option if you have them, I just don't prefer how heavy they are for the performance I'm looking to get out of this car. They'll still probably be plenty strong enough though regardless.
Thanks, that's pretty much what I figured. If I ever do this, I'll probably be pretty cheap and weld the spiders on the D44s, and possibly either do double wishbones for links or possibly one links with panhards. Save some coin on rod ends. We'll see if it ever comes to fruition. Time is always tight these days.

What are doing for gearing in the tcase and axles?

Hijack over. Can't wait to see some of video of this thing!

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Maybe I missed it, but what size is the tube for the chassis?
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Thanks, that's pretty much what I figured. If I ever do this, I'll probably be pretty cheap and weld the spiders on the D44s, and possibly either do double wishbones for links or possibly one links with panhards. Save some coin on rod ends. We'll see if it ever comes to fruition. Time is always tight these days.

What are doing for gearing in the tcase and axles?

Hijack over. Can't wait to see some of video of this thing!
5.29s in the axles, stock tcase gears for now, by match it should be at 3mph at 3000rpm in first gear in low range

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Maybe I missed it, but what size is the tube for the chassis?
1.5x.095 main cage, 1.5x.120 frame rails and sub frame, lots of 1.25 for everything else and 1 for the interior bars
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5.29s in the axles, stock tcase gears for now, by match it should be at 3mph at 3000rpm in first gear in low range



1.5x.095 main cage, 1.5x.120 frame rails and sub frame, lots of 1.25 for everything else and 1 for the interior bars
Awesome, thanks. I'm curious to see how you like the gearing at the tcase, all other things being equal.
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Awesome, thanks. I'm curious to see how you like the gearing at the tcase, all other things being equal.
Yeah I'm interested how it's going to work out, I was going to put a lower gearset in it but after doing the math it would have been too slow due to extra low first gear in my trans. If it works then I saved myself the $600 on a gearset, if not then I'll swap in something at that point.
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Yeah I'm interested how it's going to work out, I was going to put a lower gearset in it but after doing the math it would have been too slow due to extra low first gear in my trans. If it works then I saved myself the $600 on a gearset, if not then I'll swap in something at that point.
Right on. Yeah, I think my stock gears in the D44s are 3.73, so I'm weighing the options of just throwing a deep gearset in the tcase and not messing with the axles. Plus, I'll probably just weld the spider gears. So, while probably a little cheaper to regear the diffs, probably easier to just open the tcase and throw gears in. I'm still collecting parts slowly, so I have time to figure it out. I noticed Atxrunner went with 5.29 in the axles and also threw gears in the tcase. Wondering if his son has to wheel in a higher gear in the trans.
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Right on. Yeah, I think my stock gears in the D44s are 3.73, so I'm weighing the options of just throwing a deep gearset in the tcase and not messing with the axles. Plus, I'll probably just weld the spider gears. So, while probably a little cheaper to regear the diffs, probably easier to just open the tcase and throw gears in. I'm still collecting parts slowly, so I have time to figure it out. I noticed Atxrunner went with 5.29 in the axles and also threw gears in the tcase. Wondering if his son has to wheel in a higher gear in the trans.
I believe he was running a TRX250 or 300 motor/trans combo which doesn't have a very low first gear, hence the need for the lower gears in the tcase. The TRX400 in the Foreman 400 that I'm using has a much lower first gear. So it really depends on what your donor is.
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I believe he was running a TRX250 or 300 motor/trans combo which doesn't have a very low first gear, hence the need for the lower gears in the tcase. The TRX400 in the Foreman 400 that I'm using has a much lower first gear. So it really depends on what your donor is.
That definitely makes sense.
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