Dana 60 Front - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > General Tech > General 4x4 Discussion
Notices

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-10-2019, 07:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Member # 87265
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 19
Dana 60 Front

I recently found a Dana 60 front, driver's side drop on a 1988 F350, leaf spring truck, with what should be a 3.55 gear, high pinion and king pin type. My question, is this a good axle for a one tone swap into a Jeep TJ, or is there is better, more swap friendly junk yard one ton axle choice. What is this axle worth?
Thanks
vertical-lift is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-10-2019, 07:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Member # 111998
Location: Richardson, TX
Posts: 272
Itís an affordable option that works. A 78-79 is easier but hard to find and expensive. Atec makes a good swap truss. Youíll probably want to cut off your spring/shock towers and use theres or make wider ones. With the diff offset it will make the springs sit wider than stock TJ width. Cost depends on where you are. I would think $500-$1000.

For what itís worth Iím using this same axle in my TJ swap as well.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Tyler76010 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Old 10-10-2019, 07:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
finally fuckin in
 
sterlingfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Member # 232666
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,918
It's a good axle. Im using a 91 under my Silverado. Are you linking, or thinking of leafs? What tire size? If you go leafs, you might be limited to 35" tires or else rubbing will occur. Might be able to get away with 37. Using artec brackets will allow you to use the short driver side tube with no leaf perch cutting for the lower link mounts.
I paid 375 for mine from a salvage yard.
05+super duty axles are stronger, likely cheaper, and an all around better axle. More work involved unless you use there stock radius arm mounts. If you're still wanting to link it, you'll have to cut the driver side radius arm mounts and coil mount off as there is no tube to weld to with that particular axle. I assure you it is worth it though. Fwiw i paid 275 for one of those...
__________________
Originally Posted by 03f350
... Well first off FUCK JEEPS..

Last edited by sterlingfire; 10-10-2019 at 07:03 PM.
sterlingfire is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-10-2019, 08:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
P.B.A.
 
RANGERROD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 172656
Location: Your moms
Posts: 4,168
Quote:
Originally Posted by sterlingfire View Post
It's a good axle. Im using a 91 under my Silverado. Are you linking, or thinking of leafs? What tire size? If you go leafs, you might be limited to 35" tires or else rubbing will occur. Might be able to get away with 37. Using artec brackets will allow you to use the short driver side tube with no leaf perch cutting for the lower link mounts.
I paid 375 for mine from a salvage yard.
05+super duty axles are stronger, likely cheaper, and an all around better axle. More work involved unless you use there stock radius arm mounts. If you're still wanting to link it, you'll have to cut the driver side radius arm mounts and coil mount off as there is no tube to weld to with that particular axle. I assure you it is worth it though. Fwiw i paid 275 for one of those...
On my yj framed build Iím running a 60Ē wide 44 with 2Ē back spaced wheels and 37ís almost rub. So essentially 64-65Ē wide axle with normal wheel back spacing. All of the above I agree. I paid $700 for my 88-91 kingpin back when prices were still high before superduty stuff was more readily available.
__________________
Official policer of all 348 forums.
RANGERROD is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-10-2019, 09:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
Granite Guru
 
nkldrgr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Member # 44053
Location: Sitka, Alaska
Posts: 746
Its a great axle to use! One, its king pin, which give you plenty of steering options. Several companies make a truss kit to swap them into TJs. I'm using a WFO Concepts truss.

I'm using some Method wheels with 4.75" of backspacing to keep it somewhat legal. Also, the steering scrub is better that way.
Attached Images
  
__________________
It only take two things to fly: airspeed and money.

Last edited by nkldrgr; 10-10-2019 at 09:33 PM.
nkldrgr is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-11-2019, 03:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
Newbie
 
YJUnlimited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Member # 870338
Posts: 97
Unless you get it really cheap I would spring for the 05+ SD60. Better in everyway except ball joints. Which arent horrible. They are cheap to find, more steering angle, 35 spline outers, and $175 1550 shafts from Ford. Use the $ you save towards linking it.
__________________
87 YJ, Unlimited stretch, TPI 350, links, tons, 4Dís, and stuff.
YJUnlimited is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-11-2019, 07:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
finally fuckin in
 
sterlingfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Member # 232666
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,918
Quote:
Originally Posted by YJUnlimited View Post
Unless you get it really cheap I would spring for the 05+ SD60. Better in everyway except ball joints. Which arent horrible. They are cheap to find, more steering angle, 35 spline outers, and $175 1550 shafts from Ford. Use the $ you save towards linking it.
Balljoints are better than kingpins other than high steer options imo....don't forget about sealed unit bearings too imo that's the only way to go. The old school dana 60 fronts are harder then fuck to get there wheel bearings sealed. Im always regreasing the bearings because water intrusion. I used the poly bushing in place of the spindle bearing and seal, but that gave out eventually too. Now im back to the spindle bearing seal setup with better seals, but it still leaks
Eventually i want to build a 14 bolt rear with sd unit bearings too.
__________________
Originally Posted by 03f350
... Well first off FUCK JEEPS..
sterlingfire is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-11-2019, 07:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
Newbie
 
YJUnlimited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Member # 870338
Posts: 97
Quote:
Originally Posted by sterlingfire View Post
Balljoints are better than kingpins other than high steer options imo....don't forget about sealed unit bearings too imo that's the only way to go. The old school dana 60 fronts are harder then fuck to get there wheel bearings sealed. Im always regreasing the bearings because water intrusion. I used the poly bushing in place of the spindle bearing and seal, but that gave out eventually too. Now im back to the spindle bearing seal setup with better seals, but it still leaks
Eventually i want to build a 14 bolt rear with sd unit bearings too.
Just referring to how the knuckle mounts I would argue that KP is better than BJ. Thats why they make the BJ eliminator kits. Now every other aspect of the SD60 is superior knuckles, stubs, C's, unit bearing etc. The ideal outer set up would be the reid Super C's that use KP and the 05+UB's and can fit big bells, but them things are $$$$. At that point you would be better of with a 14Bolt front. Got to love spending money I dont have in my head. lol.
__________________
87 YJ, Unlimited stretch, TPI 350, links, tons, 4Dís, and stuff.
YJUnlimited is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-11-2019, 08:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
Atomic Test Lab Rat
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Member # 25325
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 3,664
This is all that is needed to explain why the 05+ is superior to kingpin. This coming from someone who runs a kingpin axle.

__________________
IDI F250 Crawler
redranger4.0 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-11-2019, 08:08 AM   #10 (permalink)
Newbie
 
YJUnlimited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Member # 870338
Posts: 97
Quote:
Originally Posted by redranger4.0 View Post
This is all that is needed to explain why the 05+ is superior to kingpin. This coming from someone who runs a kingpin axle.





Exactly why I said everything else but the King pin attachment itself. Also someone who runs a KP axle. If I did it over again I 100% would go SD60
__________________
87 YJ, Unlimited stretch, TPI 350, links, tons, 4Dís, and stuff.
YJUnlimited is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-11-2019, 09:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
finally fuckin in
 
sterlingfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Member # 232666
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,918
Quote:
Originally Posted by YJUnlimited View Post
Just referring to how the knuckle mounts I would argue that KP is better than BJ. Thats why they make the BJ eliminator kits. Now every other aspect of the SD60 is superior knuckles, stubs, C's, unit bearing etc. The ideal outer set up would be the reid Super C's that use KP and the 05+UB's and can fit big bells, but them things are $$$$. At that point you would be better of with a 14Bolt front. Got to love spending money I dont have in my head. lol.
Balljoint over kingpin because seals is why i prefer them at this point. The kingpin seals are at least better than the shitty wheel bearing seals strength wise, if they were the same size, kingpin would be the better option, but kingpin on stock knuckled axles are not all they are cracked up to be. That's stock kingpin axle vs stock sd axle. Now if you're going aftermarket(spending someone else's money) going reid super c is the way to go. That is not the topic though

Quote:
Originally Posted by redranger4.0 View Post
This is all that is needed to explain why the 05+ is superior to kingpin. This coming from someone who runs a kingpin axle.



Huge difference, and the reason 05+ sd axles are getting evermore popular. Axle tube size and the ability to run 1550 joints with 0 mods and on the cheap are some other big reasons to go that route...

Quote:
Originally Posted by YJUnlimited View Post
Exactly why I said everything else but the King pin attachment itself. Also someone who runs a KP axle. If I did it over again I 100% would go SD60
I also run a kingpin and might change it out for the sd sitting on the floor in my shop. Plus getting them for sub 300 within an hour of my place might be a huge factor in why my next project will have 1 as well. Wonder what i can get for my kingpin with 4.88, spartan locker, and Yukon hardcores?
__________________
Originally Posted by 03f350
... Well first off FUCK JEEPS..
sterlingfire is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old Yesterday, 09:09 AM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Member # 87265
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by sterlingfire View Post
It's a good axle. Im using a 91 under my Silverado. Are you linking, or thinking of leafs? What tire size? If you go leafs, you might be limited to 35" tires or else rubbing will occur. Might be able to get away with 37. Using artec brackets will allow you to use the short driver side tube with no leaf perch cutting for the lower link mounts.
I paid 375 for mine from a salvage yard.
05+super duty axles are stronger, likely cheaper, and an all around better axle. More work involved unless you use there stock radius arm mounts. If you're still wanting to link it, you'll have to cut the driver side radius arm mounts and coil mount off as there is no tube to weld to with that particular axle. I assure you it is worth it though. Fwiw i paid 275 for one of those...
I would be putting the axle under a Jeep TJ, prolly coil overs. The truck in question has leaf strings, and none of the control arm stuff to have to cut off the axle. I can pick it up from the salvage yard for $129 OTD, It also has a 10.25 rear.
vertical-lift is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old Yesterday, 09:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
finally fuckin in
 
sterlingfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Member # 232666
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,918
Quote:
Originally Posted by vertical-lift View Post
I would be putting the axle under a Jeep TJ, prolly coil overs. The truck in question has leaf strings, and none of the control arm stuff to have to cut off the axle. I can pick it up from the salvage yard for $129 OTD, It also has a 10.25 rear.
Buy it now... how was this even a question for that price you'll be very happy
__________________
Originally Posted by 03f350
... Well first off FUCK JEEPS..
sterlingfire is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old Yesterday, 11:22 AM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Member # 87265
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by sterlingfire View Post
Buy it now... how was this even a question for that price you'll be very happy


Just wanted to be sure I wasnít buying something that wasnít usable!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
vertical-lift is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

** A VERIFICATION EMAIL IS SENT TO THIS ADDRESS TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION!! **

Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.