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Old 11-17-2019, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone redrill 8x6.5 hubs to 6x6.5?

Seems that cheap 6x6.5 wheels are pretty easy to come by. Like 5 forged Beadlocks for $600 when any set of 4 cast 8 lug wheels are $1000-1200.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to do since you have the 2 studs as an index.

Anyone done this? I've been googling, and only found one mention of it, but nothing about if the patterns interfere or not.
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Seems that cheap 6x6.5 wheels are pretty easy to come by. Like 5 forged Beadlocks for $600 when any set of 4 cast 8 lug wheels are $1000-1200.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to do since you have the 2 studs as an index.

Anyone done this? I've been googling, and only found one mention of it, but nothing about if the patterns interfere or not.

Where the hell can you buy 5 forged beadlocks for $600?

Couldn't you just weld up the holes and redrill if any interfered? That's what I would do.
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Where the hell can you buy 5 forged beadlocks for $600?

Couldn't you just weld up the holes and redrill if any interfered? That's what I would do.
So cal and AZ classifieds.

A lot of desert guys use 6x6.5 and get a bunch of tires and wheels under sponsorship. In fact when I was googling, I found a guy on race desert who was complaining that he had 25 wheels and tires that he couldn't get rid of since they were 6x6.5.

Also, I noticed kmc Enduros are like $275 ea in that pattern, but more expensive in other patterns

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yes it will interfere

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So your thinking of bolting a 6x6.5 wheel to a flange and hand drilling the new holes?
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Out of curiosity, what will you be doing for brakes?

Seems like 'a lot' of work to save a buck or two on rims that under normal circumstances aren't disposable especially if you aren't going to go with a 15" rim.
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So your thinking of bolting a 6x6.5 wheel to a flange and hand drilling the new holes?
No, I'd probably have a plate cut with 2 holes at 9/16" and the other 4 at 1/4" or so for a pilot hole.
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Out of curiosity, what will you be doing for brakes?

Seems like 'a lot' of work to save a buck or two on rims that under normal circumstances aren't disposable especially if you aren't going to go with a 15" rim.
Brakes will be the same as if I stayed 8 lug, just drill the 4 holes in the rotor.

Drilling a few holes doesn't seem like a lot of work. Have you priced aluminum Beadlocks? 5 - 17" Beadlocks are probably going to be over $2k new, used they are very hard to find. And that's cast wheels. Forged wheels are usually over $1k ea.
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OK I'm planning on doing this in the future as well.

With a 9/16" hole you have slightly over .28 between the closest holes. no overlap. I would drill them all and then weld up unused holes. That is my plan in future as well.
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OK I'm planning on doing this in the future as well.

With a 9/16" hole you have slightly over .28 between the closest holes. no overlap. I would drill them all and then weld up unused holes. That is my plan in future as well.
Good to know. I feel like 0.28 is enough for me. I was planning on leaving it just in case I went back to 8 lug.
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JESS with his CNC could index the current pattern and drill the new pattern.

I could have done this but my troyke rotary index table ($2400.00 when I bought it) was burnt up during the fire.
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JESS with his CNC could index the current pattern and drill the new pattern.

I could have done this but my troyke rotary index table ($2400.00 when I bought it) was burnt up during the fire.
Ya, I know he can do most anything. I like the guy, but he is painfully slow on custom work.

My father in law has been a cnc programmer and machinist for ~30 years also, but I don't see the need really.
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Currie has been doing this with unit bearings for 10+ years, I think.. my Toyota/d60 hybrid is 6 lug. Currie has rotors for the 6lug f450 unit bearings as well.
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Currie has been doing this with unit bearings for 10+ years, I think.. my Toyota/d60 hybrid is 6 lug. Currie has rotors for the 6lug f450 unit bearings as well.
Were talking 6x6.5 trophy truck pattern, not 6x5.5 Toyota, GM, Nissan, ect.
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Were talking 6x6.5 trophy truck pattern, not 6x5.5 Toyota, GM, Nissan, ect.
Doh! I missed the 6.5.... knew I had to be missing something. Face/palm
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Brakes will be the same as if I stayed 8 lug, just drill the 4 holes in the rotor.

Drilling a few holes doesn't seem like a lot of work. Have you priced aluminum Beadlocks? 5 - 17" Beadlocks are probably going to be over $2k new, used they are very hard to find. And that's cast wheels. Forged wheels are usually over $1k ea.
I forgot what I paid for the ProComp Vapour 2 set of 5... I want to say ~$1200 for all five new/used(racer didn't use them, new in box)


I'm also not 100% if they are forged or whatever you have. Price new for the new version was $450 for 8 lug last I looked. *edit* actually $430 but on sale at $340:
https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/pro-co...PQMS=17+Inches

The fact that you are just going to drill the 8 lug rotors also makes this seem like a lot of effort. I'm a lazy fawker who likes off shelf availability for wear items
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I forgot what I paid for the ProComp Vapour 2 set of 5... I want to say ~$1200 for all five new/used(racer didn't use them, new in box)



I'm also not 100% if they are forged or whatever you have. Price new for the new version was $450 for 8 lug last I looked. *edit* actually $430 but on sale at $340:

no offense, but those are probably some of the cheapest Beadlocks available. No where near the same planet as a quality forged wheel (like I said, around $1k ea new) and still double what I've found in 6x6.5. I really haven't found shit in used 8x6.5, and that's looking here, all over the country on Craigslist and West coast on Facebook.

The fact that you are just going to drill the 8 lug rotors also makes this seem like a lot of effort. I'm a lazy fawker who likes off shelf availability for wear items
I can agree with you there. However, if it's as simple as drilling a few holes, it's not a big deal. I carry a Cordless drill with me any time I hit the trail.

I did think about tapping the factory 8 lug holes, using screw in studs for the 4 new holes and then the regular studs for the 2 common holes. This would make the rotors of the shelf. However, I wanted to switch to slip on rotors.

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Just need a pilot and a clamp or a way to index on a mill.

A pilot that uses the 8x6.5 pattern would be best IMO, a plate with drill bushings pressed in would be the simplest way to complete the job.
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Just drew it up in sketch up real quick. With 9/16" holes (old and new) it should leave .27" between the holes at the closest points. I tried spinning the 6 bolt pattern to see if it gets any better than than, but that's about as good as it gets.
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On a side note, I wish the trophy truck guys were running 20" wheels. I would redrill my hubs in a second to run some cheap 20" wheels and buy some 42" reds. But to do so now, requires me buying the tires and new wheels. Why the hell doesn't BFG make a 42x17? Big investment to make that jump. Actually cheaper for me to pay more for 42" Treps and keep my 17" wheels.

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I know a guy that did it. He printed a lug pattern found on the internet and used a punch, compass, and ruler (not a tape measure) to check that everything was lined up correctly. The holes were drilled with a drill press and a new bit.
He didnít care if was not exact because it was a trail only rig. He is an aerospace engineer so I think he did it to some degree of precision.
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So what's it cost to ship a set of wheels across the country?

Since the conversion is basically free to anyone with fairly rudimentary machining facilities it seems like a great way to get cheap 17" alloy beadlocks.
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but I don't see the need really.

Woah.
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