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Old 12-08-2019, 08:54 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't want 9" winde wheels. I'm interested in a tread pattern that is more aggressive than a standard MT radial. Basically looking for a streetable alternative to a tractor tire
Dude, you seriously need to come to the realization that this magical skinny ass tractor treaded, super long lasting, high load capacity, great road handling tire does not fucking exist, and pick one of the options you have to work with. You want streetable tires yet run welded diffs and plan on using the truck as construction equipment.......
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generic cheap bias mud and snows
chains for mud
smaller sizes for better chain clearance
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So are they 36" tall when new and 28" tall when they're worn out?
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Dude, you seriously need to come to the realization that this magical skinny ass tractor treaded, super long lasting, high load capacity, great road handling tire does not fucking exist, and pick one of the options you have to work with. You want streetable tires yet run welded diffs and plan on using the truck as construction equipment.......
Why you sound so mad?

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Those are honestly pretty awesome. They have the right sizes. I'd hate to know what they feel like at speeds though.

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I need to be able to run down and fill up my transfer tank and welder that go in the bed. I also want to drive it home sometimes without hassle.
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Tried to order SX2. They're unavailable. Went with the Trep instead. We'll see how they work out.
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Aren't q78 tsls pretty much for this exact set up?

Have you looked at the weight ratings? That trailer you were looking at could have a shit ton of pin weight.

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Aren't q78 tsls pretty much for this exact set up?

Have you looked at the weight ratings? That trailer you were looking at could have a shit ton of pin weight.
Q78's are only 35" tall. Would have worked just fine too.

A dump trailer will have a lot of tongue weight. I built my gooseneck hitch further forward than most to hopefully put as much weight onto the front tires as possible. I'm 10" ahead of the axle.

I don't plan to run heavy loads on the road. I have a dually for that purpose.

Tire load ratings have a lot more to do with weight at speed and dealing with the heat of carcass flex under load than it does physical carrying capacity. I feel like for my 5-10mph use on the property, it is going to be a non issue if I do overload them.

I'm still trying to find the trailer used. I am ideally looking for a 83x14' 14k. I found a 12' that's reasonable. But a 16', which is likely to put a huge tongue weight on the ball is also likely too big for dirt anyway. I can find them all day it seems. I've heard they won't lift when filled up with dirt loads so I'm not trying to buy something "big" just to have it be a finicky thing.

I'm probably maxing out with 6-8 yards at a time. If the trailer is 4k lbs and I can carry 6k on the hitch, all should be well.
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Q78's are only 35" tall. Would have worked just fine too.

A dump trailer will have a lot of tongue weight. I built my gooseneck hitch further forward than most to hopefully put as much weight onto the front tires as possible. I'm 10" ahead of the axle.

I don't plan to run heavy loads on the road. I have a dually for that purpose.

Tire load ratings have a lot more to do with weight at speed and dealing with the heat of carcass flex under load than it does physical carrying capacity. I feel like for my 5-10mph use on the property, it is going to be a non issue if I do overload them.

I'm still trying to find the trailer used. I am ideally looking for a 83x14' 14k. I found a 12' that's reasonable. But a 16', which is likely to put a huge tongue weight on the ball is also likely too big for dirt anyway. I can find them all day it seems. I've heard they won't lift when filled up with dirt loads so I'm not trying to buy something "big" just to have it be a finicky thing.

I'm probably maxing out with 6-8 yards at a time. If the trailer is 4k lbs and I can carry 6k on the hitch, all should be well.
I thought q78-16s actually measured 36" tall, so probably taller than the treps, unless they're better than the creepy crawlers. My 37 cc's were maybe 35s
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A dump trailer will have a lot of tongue weight. I built my gooseneck hitch further forward than most to hopefully put as much weight onto the front tires as possible. I'm 10" ahead of the axle.

I'm still trying to find the trailer used. I am ideally looking for a 83x14' 14k.
Hope you're able to turn. Had to put an extension on a dump trailer because it wouldnt clear on a 10ft cab and chassis. Not all goosenecks are built the same.

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I guess we'll know soon enough. I think they'll be here tomorrow.
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Their tires are pretty interesting. Looks like recaps. For how aggressive they are, they picked a lot of small sizes though.
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Their tires are pretty interesting. Looks like recaps. For how aggressive they are, they picked a lot of small sizes though.
People don't seem to give their big ones to the recyclers that the recaps are salvaged from.
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People don't seem to give their big ones to the recyclers that the recaps are salvaged from.
I'd still expect to see some 35x12.5r17 and 37x12.5r17s with all the jk's running those sizes.

I'd be curious about the 02 and 03 in the snow on a lightweight 35x12.5r15 carcass.
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I was going to suggest a set of 325/85/16 XMLs if you can find a set that isn't 10 years old, they seem like they would be almost perfect for your application. They are taller than their nominal size and measure out at 38-38.5". I have mine mounted on some 16x7s (I think? They certainly are narrower than 8") unbalanced and they run smooth all the way up over 50 MPH. I paid $150/tire for them with 60-80% tread with the oldest one being 8 years old and the newest 4 years old.
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I was going to suggest a set of 325/85/16 XMLs if you can find a set that isn't 10 years old, they seem like they would be almost perfect for your application. They are taller than their nominal size and measure out at 38-38.5". I have mine mounted on some 16x7s (I think? They certainly are narrower than 8") unbalanced and they run smooth all the way up over 50 MPH. I paid $150/tire for them with 60-80% tread with the oldest one being 8 years old and the newest 4 years old.
That's pretty close to the 11r16 we talked about earlier, maybe a little wider.
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Q78's are only 35" tall. Would have worked just fine too.

A dump trailer will have a lot of tongue weight. I built my gooseneck hitch further forward than most to hopefully put as much weight onto the front tires as possible. I'm 10" ahead of the axle.

I don't plan to run heavy loads on the road. I have a dually for that purpose.

Tire load ratings have a lot more to do with weight at speed and dealing with the heat of carcass flex under load than it does physical carrying capacity. I feel like for my 5-10mph use on the property, it is going to be a non issue if I do overload them.

I'm still trying to find the trailer used. I am ideally looking for a 83x14' 14k. I found a 12' that's reasonable. But a 16', which is likely to put a huge tongue weight on the ball is also likely too big for dirt anyway. I can find them all day it seems. I've heard they won't lift when filled up with dirt loads so I'm not trying to buy something "big" just to have it be a finicky thing.

I'm probably maxing out with 6-8 yards at a time. If the trailer is 4k lbs and I can carry 6k on the hitch, all should be well.
a yard of dry dirt is 2000 lbs. Wet can be close to 3000. If you put that much dirt in a dump trailer it won't dump.

Also, I work in excavation. You don't drive your dump trucks on the dirt. Build a gravel road in and keep your truck and trailer on that. Start at the back and work your way out. Unless you want to spend more time digging yourself out than actually excavating. Your haul road should be 12inches of compacted rock if it's wet out, or it will go to shit as well.
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id go with the sx2. 3650lb rating aint bad, but 40s have a 4080lb rating

the 37x12 sx2s i have measure 36.75 mounted, ive also heard that current sx2s are harder than the first few runs they did.


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a yard of dry dirt is 2000 lbs. Wet can be close to 3000. If you put that much dirt in a dump trailer it won't dump.
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My bumper pull dump trailer will dump 5k lbs of green oak without issue. never struggled with DG or dirt either. 8x12 double axle trailer, nothing crazy.
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id go with the sx2. 3650lb rating aint bad, but 40s have a 4080lb rating

the 37x12 sx2s i have measure 36.75 mounted, ive also heard that current sx2s are harder than the first few runs they did.




My bumper pull dump trailer will dump 5k lbs of green oak without issue. never struggled with DG or dirt either. 8x12 double axle trailer, nothing crazy.
Not 6-8 yards though like op was talking about. 8 yards of wet dirt is over 20k.
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I tried to order the SX2. They're out of stock for an undefined amount of time.

Got the Treps mounted on a 16x6. They measure 36.25" @ 30psi.
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Got the Treps mounted on a 16x6. They measure 36.25" @ 30psi.
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