2 seat unlimited comp buggy? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > General Tech > General 4x4 Discussion
Notices

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-26-2005, 07:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Member # 15276
Location: Adrian Michigan
Posts: 1,062
2 seat unlimited comp buggy?

with all the moon buggys being built will there be any 2 seat front engine comp buggys competing in the unlimited class. I was just wondering how bad I would get my as_ handed to me if I competed. Probably we rock
cvwindows is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-26-2005, 08:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Member # 41065
Posts: 92
It depends more on your skill than whether or not you have a moon buggy. There were a couple front engine rigs consistently in the top three all year last year (tracy jordan for example). Yeah, his is a one seater, but unless your rig is overly wide, I don't think that would be your limiting factor.
cuban b is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Old 02-26-2005, 09:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
DOUG38S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Member # 17107
Location: Boonsboro MD
Posts: 6,587
Blog Entries: 1
Send a message via AIM to DOUG38S
Man come on out and compete!!!!!!!!

There are a lot of guys that run 2 seaters and do well.

It really is about the driver/spotter and how in tune with the vehicle they are than the vehicle.

We need more new people into the events to make the sport grow!!
__________________
BIGELOW MOTORSPORTS EST. 2003
DOUG38S is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-26-2005, 09:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
ROKN ZJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Member # 6536
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 5,579
Blog Entries: 1
I use a two seater, as well as Jason Paule, Don Robbins, Dustin currently does, Team Purple does, and some others...
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
ROKN ZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-26-2005, 11:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
upnover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Member # 17729
Location: Aston,PA
Posts: 541
there are a couple in uroc east and Neuroc
i even know of one guy building a rear engine 2 seater with a v6.

i say try it
__________________
Up and Over Innovations Inc. ------4wd sales,service and fabrications

Rhino Linings of Aston-------#1 spray-on liners

610-358-3179

W.E.Rock team#504 Unlimited
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
upnover is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-26-2005, 02:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
Registered User
 
nilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Member # 9017
Location: indiana
Posts: 425
im running a vintage 2 seater front engine
__________________
JHF buggy, Ls1,TH400,NP205,D60,d70
nilla is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-26-2005, 06:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Member # 5326
Location: Southwest Colorado
Posts: 11,077
Personally....and I know all the moonbuggy guys are going to hate me......

I would like to see the rules make both people ride in the buggy at all times. I think that would even the field a little bit, plus it pretty much insures that if you can't drive out of a roll your done. I think this is the way that most of the overseas trial style comps are run. Jare?....anyone over there care to comment?

Not that I don't like the technology that comes out of pushing the envelope as much as possible but I think having to have two side by side seats would keep the buggies a little more conventional and recognizable.
__________________
42 MB, 225, T18, big kid go cart with clown tires
92 Dodge W250 daily driver on 39s
Mieser is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-26-2005, 07:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
pissnmetal
 
StudNuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Member # 12035
Location: Wendell, NC
Posts: 1,292
Send a message via AIM to StudNuts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mieser
Personally....and I know all the moonbuggy guys are going to hate me......

I would like to see the rules make both people ride in the buggy at all times.
Word. The rules should be like the rules of watersports, one seat for driver and one for spotter. If its only a single seater, you forfeit the spotter.


Im not into the whole moon buggy episode. I still like the traditional front engine 2 seater comp buggys - they just look darn tough. I hope they dont fade out, cause I want to build a front engine 2 seater comp rig next, but im like you I dont want to be ridiculed in the dirt by some tiny mars navigator.
__________________
I'm just a dude playing a dude pretending to be another dude.
StudNuts is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-26-2005, 11:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Member # 15582
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 1,567
Send a message via MSN to Droopy Send a message via Yahoo to Droopy
Come on man...compete in that buggy. It's really nice.




__________________
Life is good.
Droopy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 12:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Member # 29766
Posts: 3,469
we're building one, front engine, 2-seater from skys extreme...... we're gonna run werock... hell yeah!
crawlmag is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 07:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
jeepguru7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Member # 14451
Location: Gainesville, Ga
Posts: 396
I am also building another 2 seater. I competed in a TC 2 seater last year and ended the season 6th out of 45 UROC East Supermod.

It doesn't take a moon buggy to do well just the right driver, spotter, attitude, determination, etc... Not just what you're driving.

Just think about Torbett, he may have a single seater but compared to 95% of the buggies out there his is way old school. It weighs at least 1000lbs more than any of the moon buggies, but he wins and does so in style, smooth and calm.

If it's what you want go for it.
__________________
Save Tellico Rally Post #75

Rock Solid Racing, LLC


coming soon...

Sponsors:

Offroad Outfitters, Transportation Network Systems, Yukon Axle & Gear, Mild 2 Wild 4x4 Customs... more to come
jeepguru7 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 08:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
fish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Member # 13463
Location: Fairfield Ohio
Posts: 509
I will be rolling old school style also
fish is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 10:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Member # 14545
Location: phoenix,az
Posts: 498
Quote:
Originally Posted by cuban b
It depends more on your skill than whether or not you have a moon buggy. There were a couple front engine rigs consistently in the top three all year last year (tracy jordan for example). Yeah, his is a one seater, but unless your rig is overly wide, I don't think that would be your limiting factor.
My rig is a two seater, just take the passenger seat out during comps for better visabilty. Last i heard a two seater won 4 out of 6 at UROC and took the whole series not to mention just won the 1st werock. One of these days people are going to wake up and figure out you don't need the current trends to win, it takes alot more than a rig to win.....Moonbuggys dont = wins, just ask "the bank" , but with seat time and team work he'll do fine, which will work for someone in a old school front engine. My take on this trend is everyone will convert to mb thinking its the way to go and in 06 a front engine will comeback and dominate and get people thinking Oh i've got to have a front engine car to win. Maybe Nelson's working on that right now.
smalltimewheeler is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 11:23 AM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
ROKN ZJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Member # 6536
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 5,579
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by smalltimewheeler
My rig is a two seater, just take the passenger seat out during comps for better visabilty. Last i heard a two seater won 4 out of 6 at UROC and took the whole series not to mention just won the 1st werock. One of these days people are going to wake up and figure out you don't need the current trends to win, it takes alot more than a rig to win.....Moonbuggys dont = wins, just ask "the bank" , but with seat time and team work he'll do fine, which will work for someone in a old school front engine. My take on this trend is everyone will convert to mb thinking its the way to go and in 06 a front engine will comeback and dominate and get people thinking Oh i've got to have a front engine car to win. Maybe Nelson's working on that right now.
Hey Tracy what're you wheeling this year???
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
ROKN ZJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 11:24 AM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Member # 12071
Location: Warren, MI
Posts: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by cvwindows
with all the moon buggys being built will there be any 2 seat front engine comp buggys competing in the unlimited class. I was just wondering how bad I would get my as_ handed to me if I competed. Probably we rock

There are few buggies that would be considered moon buggies out east. At least last year. I am guessing there will be more this year but I doubt it will be that many. Rich Schmaus who came in 2nd place, 3 out of the 4 of the Uroc East events last year is a 2 seater.

Here is a pic of it
__________________
Matt misfitoffroad.com
DetR6oit is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 12:09 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Member # 14545
Location: phoenix,az
Posts: 498
I'm just going to be a hired gun this year Hal. I didn't say i couldn't win in a moonbuggy though...
smalltimewheeler is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 04:39 PM   #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Member # 15276
Location: Adrian Michigan
Posts: 1,062
Thanks for all the encouragement guys. I will see if I can get it back together in time for werock ohio. Yeah I know rich he built my chassis. It is the green ford in the pic above. I have it apart right now for chassis paint.
cvwindows is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 07:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Member # 12567
Location: Michigarbage
Posts: 1,150
Send a message via AIM to ChevotaSS
chassis paint... uhh ohh.... better put on 30 coats of clear if your gonna compete
__________________
everyone else is crying over what michigan has been dealing with for 6 years.
ChevotaSS is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 08:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Member # 15276
Location: Adrian Michigan
Posts: 1,062
well as you know we live in the rust belt so something is better than nothing
cvwindows is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 09:46 PM   #20 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
Weasel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Member # 5639
Location: Rapid City, SD
Posts: 16,642
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by smalltimewheeler
My rig is a two seater, just take the passenger seat out during comps for better visabilty. Last i heard a two seater won 4 out of 6 at UROC and took the whole series not to mention just won the 1st werock. One of these days people are going to wake up and figure out you don't need the current trends to win, it takes alot more than a rig to win.....Moonbuggys dont = wins, just ask "the bank" , but with seat time and team work he'll do fine, which will work for someone in a old school front engine. My take on this trend is everyone will convert to mb thinking its the way to go and in 06 a front engine will comeback and dominate and get people thinking Oh i've got to have a front engine car to win. Maybe Nelson's working on that right now.
Thats pretty much Jason take on it too. When I talked to him he said when they get beat by a MB they might consider it.
__________________

Kindness doesn't condemn or condone

Just Add Lightness
Weasel is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-27-2005, 10:05 PM   #21 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Member # 19446
Location: San Francisco, CA & Huntsville, AL
Posts: 716
Send a message via AIM to ?????
I personally think having a spotter out there tugging on your rig is gay. And if you're going to be building a 1 seater then you should be able to see both sides and tell what you're going to hit. If you've got a 2 seater than your spotter can ride along and tell you what's going on over there. At most the spotter could stand outside and lead you along but not touch the buggy. Just my view on it.
????? is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

** A VERIFICATION EMAIL IS SENT TO THIS ADDRESS TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION!! **

Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.