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Old 07-28-2005, 03:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Educate me on front 60's

I need some interchange and general info on the various front 60's.

I want to find out which models and years of front 60 yolks and knuckles are interchangeable. GM to Ford to Dodge etc. What king pin style parts will interchange, ball joint styles and spindle interchange etc.

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Might try the Dana 60 bible in the Tech section.
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Might take that For Sale ad and put it in the for sale section.
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but 5 years and you haven't seen this part of Pirate4x4.com?

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I did enjoy it. Thanks for pointing it out the search I did, didn't.

Great info on the king pin knuckles. How about the ball joint style? That search didn't turn up anything either.
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Old 07-28-2005, 06:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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try asking a question that is a bit less vague.
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Old 07-28-2005, 08:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Screw the balljoints, they're crap, you want kingpins, end of story.
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If you all don't have answers to the question why do you clutter the thread with your B.S.??
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just remeber to set castor correct on the king pin and you will be happy- oh yeh stay away from the dodge 60 its a wierdo- Jess
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just remeber to set castor correct on the king pin and you will be happy- oh yeh stay away from the dodge 60 its a wierdo- Jess
Whats weird about Dodge D60s
I have several of them sitting at the shop. They have the external lockouts , heavier, stronger inner castings, and GM style knuckles.
The right side perch is cast inot the housing, with two studs for securing the spring plate.
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Front Dana 60. This monster is some 66 pages long, and contains just about everything there is to know about Dana 60 Front Axles. Sections include description, identification, dimensions, specifications, pictures, Bill of Materials listings, parts interchange, assembly specifications, yokes, gears, lockers, axle shafts, bearings and seals, lockout hubs, u-joints, as well as technical facts, how-to articles, and a HUGE FAQ. Updated frequently.
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Old 07-29-2005, 08:38 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Partially correct buckwheat, but I was still asking about the ball joint style and other than the usual "Hell no don't use those" I got NO info on them even in Bella Vistas great write-up. Have you got some useful information or just another mouthfull of bullshit?
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I know there were at least 2 versions of Ford Ball joint kunckles, I have seen one with cast in brake caliper mount, another with out.
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Screw the balljoints, they're crap, you want kingpins, end of story.

WTF....So you are saying that the Unit Bearing stuff that.....well.....most moon buggy competitors are running is crap? They are ball joint style. We run them on our car and have had zero problems. So just clarify before you say what sucks and what doesn't.

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Old 07-29-2005, 11:41 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks Mark. Did one of the ball joint style come with the standard spindle and bearing set-up, not the unitized one? What years? And will the king pin knuckles of either fit a unitized yolk? They should be the same but I don't know for sure. I've got unitized knuckles but I'd like a more conventional set-up cause it's cheaper. I can always carry a spare unitized set but bearings seem easier.
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WTF....So you are saying that the Unit Bearing stuff that.....well.....most moon buggy competitors are running is crap? They are ball joint style. We run them on our car and have had zero problems. So just clarify before you say what sucks and what doesn't.

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Where is the best, and as usual, the least expensive place to have the unitized bearing machined to accept 35 spline stubs and 5X5.5 bolt pattern? Someone mentioned Currie but are there options?
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front 60 5 on 5.5

Why would there be hardly any call for this setup? I know it can be done, but why is it done? Any rig that feels the need to be running a front dana 60 should be at least running a rear 60, or bigger, and if that's the case it's a ton of work and money just to not have to change wheels. The only way I could see that it would be useful to convert a front 60 to 5 on 5.5 is if you already have a rear semi floating 60 at 5 on 5.5, or some tricked out 9" in the back. I mean really, if you're looking at a front 60, you should be looking at a rear 70 or 14 bolt, so why not just run all 8 lug anyway?
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Why would there be hardly any call for this setup? I know it can be done, but why is it done? Any rig that feels the need to be running a front dana 60 should be at least running a rear 60, or bigger, and if that's the case it's a ton of work and money just to not have to change wheels. The only way I could see that it would be useful to convert a front 60 to 5 on 5.5 is if you already have a rear semi floating 60 at 5 on 5.5, or some tricked out 9" in the back. I mean really, if you're looking at a front 60, you should be looking at a rear 70 or 14 bolt, so why not just run all 8 lug anyway?
Because I have a really cool set of chrome with spinner centers 5X5.5 wheels that I want to keep using.
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OK, to each his own... I don't want any wheel on my rig that I have to be worried I'm gonna mess up. I guess it looks good in the mall parking lot though huh.
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OK, to each his own... I don't want any wheel on my rig that I have to be worried I'm gonna mess up. I guess it looks good in the mall parking lot though huh.
Thanks for that. Not all 4 wheelers are hard core big dogs some of us just like the look and a clean rig.
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my 97 f350 has ball joint but no unit bearing
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Thanks for that. Not all 4 wheelers are hard core big dogs some of us just like the look and a clean rig.
Those are called mall crawlers and they don't often ask about Dana 60s.

At least all you're wasting is a crappy balljoint one that nobody wants anyway.
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unit bearings were 99-up on fords.balljoints showed up in 92.
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