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Old 11-12-2005, 11:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just another cage, with pics.

Well, it had become apparent that my buddy could not improve his personal looks, or functionality, so we decided to at least make his .Jeep look better, and more functional. I owe a sirius(inside joke ) thanks to my buddy Bill who is helping me with the build so that the owner actually stands a chance of seeing his Jeep before New Years.

Here are some pics of what we have been doing today.

First, you have to take all of the crap out, and there was a BUNCH of crap:



Then we could actually start building something:





That is it for Day One. Believe it or not, that there is a pretty solid 10 hours of work from two pretty skilled men. There is a bunch more tube to add and finish up the seat tie-ins, which Bill figured a super slick way to do, and then take the whole thing out for final welding and paint. We hope to have it to that point tomorrow night. We shall see.

Thanks to Mudjocky from Quadratec for allowing us to work on his sweet ride.

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Okay, new pics after Day Two. Another 10-12 hours were put into it today by Bill and I. This was detail day with making sure all systems work and fit. There are some tight details that had to be incorporated.

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If anyone says, "needs more triangulation" I will come to your house and strangle you to the death.
Actually, there will be V-supports behind the seats added tomorrow morning before paint so the B-pillars will be supported diagonally.

There is a bunch of headroom in this thing.



Here is how we made the rear seat safe and secure.


Here are the seat tie-in shots. The geometry that plays into these was mind-boggling. Each tube had to fit exact to make the criteria work. Jim wanted to drop his seat ~2" so his muscular legs would get out of the .steering .wheel and with the hip bars we really played hell making the seats fit and still be able to run the .center .console. You may not notice, but there are kink bends where the hip bars meet the A-toB pilllar lower bars to move the hipbar away from the side bolster of the seat.



Overall it is coming our GREAT! We have more time than expected in it, but there were some details that we really wanted to make right. Tomorrow morning we will add the B-pillar V bars behind the front seats, some small gussets, door handles, and then rip it out for final weld and paint.

I just want to thank Mudjocky for allowing me to paint the whole job fusia to offset it from the black.

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Old 11-12-2005, 11:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Does it tie into the frame?
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Yes, at the B-pillar body mount, and the C and A-pillars via custom tie-ins. Should be pretty solid.
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Holy Shit get that tube out of there it is totally going to be in the way of the 10,000 pounds of shit that rides in there!!!!

Oh yeah I would make room for all the stuff that he carries in the rear of that thing!



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Yes, at the B-pillar body mount, and the C and A-pillars via custom tie-ins. Should be pretty solid.
Can you post some pics of the frame tie-ins? Thanks.
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Flexy, I assume you know him well. We had to clean all of the shit out of that thing before we could even start working...


The frame tie-ins are done, but we are waiting to weld them in until the cage gets back from powdercoating. We will be building a buggy over the winter so I want to test out my current powdercoater to make sure they can do a nice job on something like this. I will update the post when it is all back together.
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Holy Shit get that tube out of there it is totally going to be in the way of the 10,000 pounds of shit that rides in there!!!!

Oh yeah I would make room for all the stuff that he carries in the rear of that thing!



ha ha ha ha ha
Devon, shut yo' mouth before I eat you and use your shin bone for a toothpick!!! BTW I cont carry that much crap anymore since I got the front Tera 50. I do however thank you for your concern over my occupation of space inside the vehicle!
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S-M-A-C-K!!

Sounds to me like two people need to meet in PAP to find out who the real man is?!
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Bah, his little Sammy would walk all over my Jeep....just as long as his Birfields would hold up...which is about 30 seconds.
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Bah, his little Sammy would walk all over my Jeep....just as long as his Birfields would hold up...which is about 30 seconds.
for devin they are blowfields....his sammi is more gay than he is.... you better watch it flimsssy sammi the fat kids are going to beat your ass
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Bah, his little Sammy would walk all over my Jeep....just as long as his Birfields would hold up...which is about 30 seconds.
for devin they are blowfields....his sammi is more gay than he is.... you better watch it flimsssy sammi the fat kids are going to beat your ass
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That is probably one of the best built cages I have seen - smooth lines and still functional for a street rig. Can a back seat fit in there and protect passengers?

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....We will be building a buggy over the winter so I want to test out my current powdercoater to make sure they can do a nice job on something like this...
Always nice to test equipment on a customer's rig!
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Real nice cage - seems to be a real shame to do all that work in HREW tube though - just my opinion.
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The back seat was designed to still fit, but it may be tight-ish. The goal was to keep Mudjocky's young daughter in there OK and fit the occasional adult, although adult comfort was not critical.

The only reason to build that from DOM would be to use thinner tube to save some weight and cost more. That design will be fine in HREW. If the cage fails there is much more worse with the Jeep at that point, IMO.
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Real nice cage - seems to be a real shame to do all that work in HREW tube though - just my opinion.
Absolutely nothing wrong with HREW
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If only you were closer Zach.. My junk needs a new cage, and Im not afraid of HREW, especially in those huge amounts you're using it in
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If only you were closer Zach.. My junk needs a new cage, and Im not afraid of HREW, especially in those huge amounts you're using it in
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C'mon, put that beast on a trailer behind the Dodge and go on a road trip!
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Absolutely nothing wrong with HREW
That's true - my personal cage is HREW, however I do all of my customer cages in DOM since the price difference isn't that much considering the strength gained.
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That's true - my personal cage is HREW, however I do all of my customer cages in DOM since the price difference isn't that much considering the strength gained.
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I like the cage, might have to use some of the design for my cage... Can it run a top?
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I'll let you talk to my wife, and talk her into letting me take the road trip LOL..
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I like the cage, might have to use some of the design for my cage... Can it run a top?
Yup. The soft top bow just slides over the rear bar and everything else fits nice.
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