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Old 09-12-2006, 06:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Jeep XJ or Toyota FJ60/62?

I have a well built 1st generation 4runner, that I use as my DD as well as camping/wheelin' rig. It is getting kinda of cramped for our family of 6(3 sons ages 12, 11, & 9, and 80lb golden retriever.) I have been contimplating selling the 4runner and building either a Jeep XJ Cherokee or a Toyota FJ60/62. I was looking for some input as which to go. Please advice, with your reasons too. Mind you it has to serve as my DD and run trails such as the Rubicon & Fordyce.

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I dont think that an XJ would have much more room.
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I have a 1st gen runner, a 2nd gen runner, and a fj62. I say the 62. BTW why do you think the xj will be roomier. It might be smaller inside than the 4runner. FJ60/62 for sure. Im partial to the 62 bc I like auto's, fuel injection, and stronger axles.
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I dont think that an XJ would have much more room.
From what I have looked at they appear a bit wider, especially in the back seat. Plus with 4 doors, it would make it easier for the kids to get in and out.
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go with the fj. the 80's series are kick ass but a 60 or 62 would probably be easier on the wallet.

also i'm willing to bet an xj with the 4.0 will get the worst gas milage of the bunch.
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I dont think that an XJ would have much more room.

+1 plus at least the crushers have a frame
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+1 plus at least the crushers have a frame
x2 on the frame comment.
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x2 on the frame comment.
x3 on the frame

easier to build on........and more options

the cherokee does have more off the shelf parts and bumpers and other due-dads

the cruiser.......leaf springs, spring over, lockers, and good set of tires.....done
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XJ's aren't very big inside at all. I was packed in on mine with me, a passenger, a 33" spare inside with some tools.

Go with a cruiser.

XJ will get better gas mileage
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Old 09-12-2006, 10:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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get a 4 door if you decide on an XJ, its much easier to get into the back to get supplies. we took out the back seat and are building a rack to stack tuff up on.


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Im a hardcore jeep guy, but i do like the old cruisers. But.... its much easier and usually cheaper, to find jeep parts, stock, aftermarket or otherwise.
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All you need for the cruiser is a cage, spring over, lockers and a toybox. Then you got a good wheeler. Build a 62, it is way better. Jeeps are for delivering the mail.
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80 series Cruiser is my choice. They already have auto, FI, available electric lockers F/R, and coil springs all around.

Other than armor, all you really need is an OME setup and tires and you are ready. It will actually cost less to do the 80.
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I don't know about "less" to do an 80. Nothing is cheap when it comes to yotas especially land cruisers.

Be aware though that XJ's along with every most every other late model jeep has absolutely terrible suspension mount strength. All of the control arm, trac bar, suspension mounts on both the frame and axles are paper thin. They do need a lot of beefing in order to hold up to the abuse as where yotas are generally much stronger in the frame department (granted it isn't rusted out )
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I stand by the "80 is less" statement.

If you get a 60 you will need gears, springover and fuel injection. Upgraded Birfs, high steer, upgraded rear axles.

Find a 62 and the initial cost will be right up there with the 80 series and they need SOA, high steer, birfs, axles.....

The 80 series handles 35s with the stock, larger birfs, FF rear axles, and the gearing is good stock with the auto and 200 hp.

OME is not only easy to install, but it is affordable...enough lift for 35s for around $700.

Find an 80 for around 7K with lockers, spend 3K on armor, lift and tires and you have a killer family hauler with enough HP to drive the hills, loaded to and from the trail.
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No on the XJ. The interior space difference is minimal, but I hear ya on the 4 doors. That is a big advantage, but no frame on a XJ and you'll be stuck with stock XJ axles. XJ's are CHEAP, but there is a reason for that. After going from the 4runner to the XJ, you wont be happy unless its an old XJ, from before DC bought AMC. Build quality is not there compared to the Toys. And yes we've had an XJ for years, '88 limited to be exact and it was a good vehicle but didnt compare to the 4runners.

I've been looking lately and the 80 series cruisers can be found for a reasonable price these days. Find an early 80 with lockers. More space, better axles, full float read end, 4 doors, more comfortable, room for a 3rd row seat...top notch aftermarket products from Slee and Marlin. You'll pay more up front vs. an XJ or FJ62 but the gears, lockers and full float rear more than make up for that, not to mention a better engine, much more space and a hell of a lot better ride.
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??? they both have 4runner sr5 rims. was this normal for the really early ones. I wheel with 3 guys who drive 80's (all from ih8mud woody, gumby, and mrbryan) and they all have the 16x8's and they cant even fit 15's. different brakes I guess. sorry for the hijack, just ignore me.
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Oh BTW I agree on the 80 over the 62. I have a 62, and have ALOT of experience with 80's. I think the 80 is quite possibly the greatest all time stock 4x4. very strong SOLID axles, e-lockers, hipinion front, 8.875 rearend, coils, EXTREEMLY well built, bomb proof. The 62 is a "cooler" truck though.
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??? they both have 4runner sr5 rims. was this normal for the really early ones. I wheel with 3 guys who drive 80's (all from ih8mud woody, gumby, and mrbryan) and they all have the 16x8's and they cant even fit 15's. different brakes I guess. sorry for the hijack, just ignore me.
The rear at least fits a 15x10" wheel with 4" of backspacing. It was resold to someone esle, unsure what has happened to my baby



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I stand by the "80 is less" statement.

If you get a 60 you will need gears, springover and fuel injection. Upgraded Birfs, high steer, upgraded rear axles.

Find a 62 and the initial cost will be right up there with the 80 series and they need SOA, high steer, birfs, axles.....

The 80 series handles 35s with the stock, larger birfs, FF rear axles, and the gearing is good stock with the auto and 200 hp.

OME is not only easy to install, but it is affordable...enough lift for 35s for around $700.

Find an 80 for around 7K with lockers, spend 3K on armor, lift and tires and you have a killer family hauler with enough HP to drive the hills, loaded to and from the trail.
What years were they available with the factory lockers?
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