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Old 10-04-2006, 01:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interco 17/40-17 Bias Ground Hawgs ---- Anyone running them?

How are they offroad - mud & trails, etc.

How tall are they really? What rim width are you using?

Thanks in advance.
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Anyone? I'd like to know just how close to 40" tall they really are.
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The only reason to run Ground Hawgs is if you score a used set for $100. If you are going to spend money on new tires, get real TSL-based Swampers. JMHO.
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i ran them on my old cherokee years ago. for use in the mud and hill climbing with a lot of dirt, they work awesome. very impressed. i had grooved mine quite a bit tho. i was very happy with them. then i started getting into rockcrawling; the compound is a bit too hard for sticking, but they worked alright on rock. not a krawler or an mtr thats for sure. going back to those days, i still feel the same way, and i would run hawgs over super swampers any day. and to those of you who dont like that!

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EDIT: hawgs run pretty true to size too. thats bias hawgs, the radials run smaller.

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i had a set of the 40's. they were used, but still had a good 50% tread on them.
grooved to look exactly like tsls (the pattern is almost identical, but you have to remove a lot of material.)

but the true height was at 36". oh yeah, very true to size.

once they were grooved they hooked up pretty well. i would never pay more than 50 bucks a tire tho.

better off with iroks.
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i had a set of the 40's. they were used, but still had a good 50% tread on them.

but the true height was at 36". oh yeah, very true to size.
My 38.5" measured 35", 50% thread @ 15 psi.
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Old 10-04-2006, 09:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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When did Interco start producing Ground Hawgs?
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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ive read that they measure out to 38.8"
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the 40" bias run small, my buddy is running them on his mud truck and tow rig. they've been on his tow rig CC PS F350 SD for about a year, seem to be wearing great. pulls the wakeboard boat great.

the title is bothering me, interco doesnt make ground hawgs, and demian (sp?) doesnt make them for a 17" rim, at least to my best knowlage

edit: by small, i mean 37"
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they were made by denman, an industrial tractor tire company, but apparently interco has recently acquired them.

when i said they measure true, theyre closer to their own measurement when they arnt loaded down - like most tires. 44's with 80% + tread aired to 3-4 psi and loaded down measured right at 41".
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the 40" bias run small, my buddy is running them on his mud truck and tow rig. they've been on his tow rig CC PS F350 SD for about a year, seem to be wearing great. pulls the wakeboard boat great.

the title is bothering me, interco doesnt make ground hawgs, and demian (sp?) doesnt make them for a 17" rim, at least to my best knowlage

edit: by small, i mean 37"
interco advertises ground hawgs on their web site
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Interco has aquired the GH rights or whatever from Denman. This went down several months ago at the least. I am asking about the Interco 17/40-17 hawg because Denman NEVER MADE THAT SIZE. So this is a new interco product. I would assume the tires are molded over a carcass already in interco's lineup. One of the STS all terrains perhaps? If you had a 40" hawg several years ago it was most certainly not a 17" rim size.

I want a bias tire with an ACTUAL height above 37" and under 42" that fits a 17x9.5 rim. I asked about the 17/40-17 GH specifically for this reason. Thanks for any assistance.

I haven't seen any retailers actually list that size (or any 17s) on their websites, so maybe noone is running them?

http://www.intercotire.com/site95.php

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According to my Swamper dealer:

Denman is a tire manufacturer, Interco is a tire designer/retailer, but not a manufacturer.
They have others build the tires for them.

Denman is one of the manufacturers Interco uses to make their tires.

If all that is true (and I believe my tire guy), I'd guess Denman sold off the rights to the Ground Hawg, and will continue building them.
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Thanks for the clarification. Regardless, the 40 sized 17" rim is new. I would really like an actual height on it.
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before this interco thing, the only rim sizes were 15" and 16.5".

i hope you realize that this is a W I D E tire. be prepared to remove a good amount of rubber to get some decent contact pressure...

good tires tho

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i just remembered the denman chart from years ago; now you get linked to interco's site, but info is still the same...



chart says 39" actual height. in my experience with hawgs, that chart is pretty accurate - when the tire is not aired down to trail pressure supporting a heavy-ass truck like some people want to measure.

expect that tire to be right where you want it.

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run forever on the road, 60K plus....good offroad anything minus rocks...which we have been nowhere near to test.

38.5"

hope you dont drive on road, cause they are hard as hell to balance
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They are no longer made by Denman, they are manufactured by Super Swamper and now use a softer rubber compound. I had a set of 40" Denman Hawgs, they were about 38.5" tall at about 30 psi. They were awesome tires, I never had them balanced and they never needed it, they rode perfect. They were great mud/sand tires and did very well on pavement too, and hardly wore at all. The next set I had were 35" Super Swamper hawgs, on a PSD, and I was not happy with them. They wore out rediculously fast and chopped like crazy. On top of that, I had a section of tread about 6" wide and 12" long peel off one of the tires on a road trip (they had around 8k miles on them at). I put the spare on and drove home, then the next morning another one was flat. I looked at it and found a tear about 1/2" long right where the tread bars meet the carcass. After inspecting all the other tires, all the tread bars on all 4 tires were developing cracks and tearing away from the carcass. My theory is the new rubber compund is too soft for tread bars that long, and they will tear off eventually. They might not be bad on a lightweight vehicle like a jeep, but I won't run them on my truck again.
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I have a set of 38" bias Ground Hawgs and even after grooving them I wasnt really impressed. I got a really good deal on mine ($600 new), theres no way I would pay full price for a set. The new Ground Hawgs are a softer compound, very similar to a TSL so they wear like shit. I have a set of 38" SXs sitting here to replace them already and the GHs are still half tread.
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According to my Swamper dealer:

Denman is a tire manufacturer, Interco is a tire designer/retailer, but not a manufacturer.
They have others build the tires for them.

Denman is one of the manufacturers Interco uses to make their tires.

If all that is true (and I believe my tire guy), I'd guess Denman sold off the rights to the Ground Hawg, and will continue building them.
Hmm... Denman may still be making the tires, but Interco designs/builds/sells their tires in one building.
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I would say that if you are going to run anything other than mud or asphalt, don't run ground hawgs. they are hard as a rock, and last forever, but aren't a rock tire by any means.

As for them running true to size, well that's bull. My roommate has new 40x17x15 ground hawgs on his truck, and they are the same size as my 38.5x14.5x15 SX's that only have 50% tread on them.
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Hmm... Denman may still be making the tires, but Interco designs/builds/sells their tires in one building.
My Swamper guy had said TSL doesn't make tires, they design them, then sub out the build.

Mostly to Denman for the bias stuff, and others, like Cooper.

I posted that here, because I tend to believe him,

and to see if there was any info to the contrary.

Where's the building?
Do they make all types of TSL's there, or just a few of the tire lines?

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