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Old 10-11-2006, 06:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This truck was on e-Bay but didn't sell and since it is local I am going to go take a look at it but I was wondering, is this too much stuff to add on to a diesel? I am a diesel noob, I've had big blocks in my last 3 daily drivers, so any advise would be appreciated. Obviously I wouldn't have everything turned up all the time but can you stack electrical add ons like this or would I be looking at problems down the road?

Now lets get to he motor. The new Duramax LBZ motor is the most powerful stock out of all the big three diesels for 2006. It has 360 hp stock and 650 ft. lbs. of torque. I installed MBRP 5" exhaust. It has a really nice 3/8 thick stainless 6" tip that looks great. It has an AFE stage 2 intake which makes the most power out of the intakes available for this truck. I have two complete kits of the cleaner and oil and a sock which can be applied over the filter for even more filtration. I put an ATS diesel co-pilot module which adjusts shift firmness and has about 8 different settings for shift firmness from stock to race mode. The truck has an ppe xcelerator which is a code reader and adjust tire size and top speed limiter but has three settings 90hp/160hp/225hp. I also have a duramaximizer which is another 150hp which is adjustable on the fly from 0-150 on a dial. The two chips stacked with the exhaust and intake put this truck at 775hp and about 1390 ft. lbs of torque. I have not to use the full capacity of both stacked until I was to buy a new torque converter. This truck was cared for as if it were one of my children. I had most of the stuff installed by a dealership because the warranty everything for three years and its not some hack doing it in his garage. The business graphics I will remove and I have full warranty for 100,000 miles on motor and tranny 36,000 on everything else. This truck is truly one of a kind, good lick bidding. You can add up everything on this truck if you want or call me at 612 xxx xxxx. it selling for thousands less than what its worth my loss is your gain. I will remove decals I also recently installed an ats torque converter that ran about 1500 dollars. If you win tell me if you want the dvd head unit in or the stock radio.
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you asking if he's customized it too much?

I've got a 6.5TD, but have friends with Duramaxes. Reading through the description, I think he's doing some marketing - "intake which makes the most power out of the intakes available for this truck" type stuff. Other than that, he's upgrade intake, exhaust, and done some things to modify the programming. I cannot comment on whether such-and-such part is the best available, but they are all known components. I've heard anything over a 4" exhaust doesn't really do much for you on these trucks and a 6" exhaust tip is just bling. Have to decide if the price and truck are what you want.
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I personally know 3 guys that have stacked boxes like that for more HP. All 3 of them popped head gaskets. Some of the Duramax's last for a while into the 500 hp range but most of em need head gasket work at that range and above.

First off, he's WRONG. That truck has NO warranty what so ever left. No dealer in their right mind would stack boxes and give you a warranty. I wouldn't even look at it for that bold faced lie right there.

Is it some killer deal or what?
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Go dig around in the tow rig forum, you might find more info on diesel upgrades.
What MattS said X2 Good luck getting the stealership to warranty a bombed diesel (as the second owner), plus I'm willing to bet that the truck has been rode hard and put up wet...who knows what EGT's he's been pulling and even with the "recently installed" ATS torque converter, the Allison tranny probably aint real happy either.
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X3. He may be able to get HIS dealer to warranty his stuff, but I guarantee if you take it to a dealer they will deny you. Also you can stack performance boxes on diesel, but they do NOT alway add up. At some point you hit a limit on the plug in boxes. There is no way I would believe this truck has over 700hp unless I saw a dyno sheet.

Personally there is no way I would buy that truck, far far too much risk. Ask him why he is selling it.
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Old 10-12-2006, 03:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Just wanted to add that the Duramax that banks Engineering built for X4x4 was just over 1200ft lbs. Single box, twin turbo, huge intercoolers, new electronics and engineered intake and exhasut.
I would think that looking at every mod Banks had to do to the engine, there is no way stacking boxes is making more then that.
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I kind of figured that there is no way the numbers add up like that either, and there is no way he hasn't at least once turned all the nobs and got on it pretty good, I know I would have! The other thing it had going for it was it is already lifted with 37's and 22" rims along with some other bolt on goodies. But I would think if I had to start shelling out $$ for motor or tranny repairs it would exceed the "extras" he already has into the truck. It has 13K on it and I guess he wants around 44K for the truck.
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watch the transmission......that is alot of HP for that tranny and they usually will start slipping over 500hp...
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That guy is either stupid or completely full of shit or both. Run the other way from that truck.
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