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Old 02-04-2007, 11:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Beadlocks: Steel Allieds or Walker Evans??

I am real torn on which beadlocks to get. It really isn't price based because I can get the WEs for only $40 more each.

Application: Rocks and trails
Vehicle: YJ with D60/14-bolt axles and 125:1 low range gearing
Tires: 39.5x17" Iroks

Which holds the inner bead better? Will rocks kill the aluminum rims? I have non-locked 17x9" Pro Comp aluminum wheels now and they burp air ALL THE TIME and get rock rashed pretty bad. I like the appearance of the Walker Evans wheels more than the Allied Rock 8 wheels that I am comparing to. I do not want the hassle of buying new steel wheels and beadlocking them with a DIY kit so that is not an option.

Any good input is welcomed.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I am real torn on which beadlocks to get. It really isn't price based because I can get the WEs for only $40 more each.

Application: Rocks and trails
Vehicle: YJ with D60/14-bolt axles and 125:1 low range gearing
Tires: 39.5x17" Iroks

Which holds the inner bead better? Will rocks kill the aluminum rims? I have non-locked 17x9" Pro Comp aluminum wheels now and they burp air ALL THE TIME and get rock rashed pretty bad. I like the appearance of the Walker Evans wheels more than the Allied Rock 8 wheels that I am comparing to. I do not want the hassle of buying new steel wheels and beadlocking them with a DIY kit so that is not an option.

Any good input is welcomed.
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If you decide to go with steel allieds, I've got a practially new set of 17x9 allied rock a thons, 8 lug, 4" or so BS I'm looking to sell. PM me if interested.
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If Zach doesn't take those wheels, I might be interested.
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I have a set of WE's, and a set of MRT's. Hands down the MRT's are brutal in the rocks, but the WE's make the rig drive totally nicer on the road. Neither set has leaked any air on me. I would buy another set if I had to, they are pretty stong and do look nice.
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x2: get the polished.
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beat the shit outta the walkers...they are barely scratched and have no gouges
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who sells WE rims???
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This year on our new Rock racer we will be running the new Spider locks from Poison Spider customs. These things are the bling.
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This year on our new Rock racer we will be running the new Spider locks from Poison Spider customs. These things are the bling.
I have issues with Poison Spyder and will likely never run anything of theirs.

BTW, if someone wants SMOKING deals on WE wheels get in touch with Whaley Enterprises on this forum.
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i got my WE 17s unpolished with regular ring for 280 each plus shipping from Shaffer's just over a year ago, not sure if the price went up though
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If your current rims burp with those tires, pretty much every rim will as all of the Pro Comp Alloys (cast or rotary forged) use the tallest safety bead in the industry. It is possible (likely) that you ended up with a set of tires with a sloppy bead tolerance which is pretty common, especially in BFGs. It's not exactly an industry trade secret.

However, I'd still recommend you choose beadlocks over a non-beadlocked rim, simply for safety on outside loading situations. Every rim has its + and - and either of the beadlocks you mentioned will work. Keep in mind hoewever, that the smooth inner bead of the steel wheel will not hold a bead as well as a fabricated inner bead on an aluminum rim. The Allieds will hold fine but if the entire thing boils down to one inner bead over another, I'd suggest the WE's or another aluminum beadlock.

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i got my WE 17s unpolished with regular ring for 280 each plus shipping from Shaffer's just over a year ago, not sure if the price went up though
That seems very reasonable for a very nice, very bling wheel. At that price even my cheap AZZ would consider them!

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Do it right and get your W.E.'s double beadlocked. W.E. offers the inner bead lock when your order.
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Do it right and get your W.E.'s double beadlocked.
I think I would head this route too!
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are double bead locked WE wheels cast locking rings like the outside, or are they a welded on ring like many other outer rings? - does that make sense?
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I was told they are cast on both sides if you order them from W.E.
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I was told they are cast on both sides if you order them from W.E.
Really, I woul dhave loved to have known this when I ordered mine last year Oh-well I'm gonna have BEADLOCKED (on board) do them.

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I was told they are cast on both sides if you order them from W.E.
happen to know the price for the double bead lock WE wheels? and polished, same upcharge i assume?
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Just get h1 style 3 pice rims and worry no more about inner safety beads, and inner/outter beadlock rings........
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Just get h1 style 3 pice rims and worry no more about inner safety beads, and inner/outter beadlock rings........
i just can't handle the looks of H1 style wheels, there gay, IMO!
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That and they are only 16.5, correct? I already have 17" Iroks.
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That and they are only 16.5, correct? I already have 17" Iroks.

You can get H1 "style" beadlocks from stazworks
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Zach, I have seen H2 Aluminum 17" beadlocked and there are a few threads here, and I think a vendor is making the kits, may be something to look into as H2 wheels can be found used for as cheap as $200 (I bought a set on craigs with tires for $150).

I honestly have only seen people loosing the inner beads when running outer beadlocks only. Seems to defeat the purpose, and I would rather pop an outter bead any day instead of an inner bead. I had a similar dillema, and would not spend over a grand to get a set of beadloacks and end up with a inner popped bead.... There are some vendors selling dual beadlocks (I think Staz, possibly Champion, stockton wheels - not 100% sure). Check out hutchinson (I think street legal as well)

If you are dumping the $ on beadlocks mighgt as well get dual beadolcks. By the way, I may be mistaken but I have seen aluminum dual beadlocks for H1's but they were way pricey new!!

Or sell the 17" tires, get some 16.5 and go hummer
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