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Old 07-15-2007, 04:54 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Well today was fun... I went and got breakfast and got home and my key just spun and spun in the deadbolt... Locked out with my food getting cold. So after eating on my porch I spent 2.5 hours drilling, hammering, chiseling, and destroying my way through the deadbolt. They apparently don't want people to be able to get in without a key lol. So it was a slow start today and I had to quit a bit early due to some work related things I need to get done.

Anyway, finished the gusseting on the lower links mounts and finish welded everything on the axle:



Also finished the plating on the back of the pass. side upper link mount and you can see the gussets on the lower link a bit better in this pic:



Finished the ram mount. I had to add the obligatory logo so it reminds me of my faithful 60 I had:



Hard to tell in the pic but it slopes upward which won't really help me in anyway but it made me feel better for doing it?

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Thing is turning out sick. Keep it up....
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:56 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Looks real good , I like the ram mount its beefy . Wonder if those UPS guys are playing football with my locker parts again ?
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The U419 axles are not stronger than U416 axles! The center section, axle shafts,knuckles are the same as on the U406-416 axles. The lower portal gear and bearings are also the same, only the upper gear and the input bearing, stub shaft is different. But not stronger! The 419 uses the old style U1300L portal boxes and on those are only the upper portal gear and the input bearing different. Also the axle shaft seals are different and they use an needle bearing instead of an bushing on the front axle shafts. The U419 has the portal box casting# 424331 and the U406-416 casting is 416331, but the last U406-416s are identical to the U419-417 axles. The U1300L CV is much bigger than the U419 CV, also the the whole knuckle is bigger on the U1300L! The 419 axle has the same load rating as the 406-416 axle (3.7T). Pre 73 406-416 axles are different and weaker.

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Old 07-16-2007, 06:48 AM   #81 (permalink)
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OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!

Sorry just wanted to use as many explanation points as you did...

I have the latest model U416's and 419's here... My 416's use trunion style axle shafts while my 419's use yoke style. So theres a difference right there, but you say they are the same? My 416's have the same box and disc brakes so yes they are the late 416's. And as I said and you said, the upper gear, stub, and bearings are different.
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The U419 axles are not stronger than U416 axles! The center section, axle shafts,knuckles are the same as on the U406-416 axles. The lower portal gear and bearings are also the same, only the upper gear and the input bearing, stub shaft is different. But not stronger! The 419 uses the old style U1300L portal boxes and on those are only the upper portal gear and the input bearing different. Also the axle shaft seals are different and they use an needle bearing instead of an bushing on the front axle shafts. The U419 has the portal box casting# 424331 and the U406-416 casting is 416331, but the last U406-416s are identical to the U419-417 axles. The U1300L CV is much bigger than the U419 CV, also the the whole knuckle is bigger on the U1300L! The 419 axle has the same load rating as the 406-416 axle (3.7T). Pre 73 406-416 axles are different and weaker.
Was this an answer for Jason? I'm sure he knew all that already and some of us either don't care or could find out the same information from a quick search.
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He just saw that I wrote that the 419's are stronger than the early 406/416's and he wanted to argue even though he said the same thing... Sure the late 406/416's have the same boxes but not the early ones. And even still the upper gear is different along with the bearings and stub. He just wanted to go on a U1300L (member here) rant to show how much he knows.
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My 416's use trunion style axle shafts while my 419's use yoke style.
Have any pics that show both? (or just the 419 stuff as I have a set of later disk 406's already, which I assume are the same as 416's???)
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Have any pics that show both? (or just the 419 stuff as I have a set of later disk 406's already, which I assume are the same as 416's???)

The trunion style look like the 404 shaft where they enter the CV whereas the yoke style looks like a dana 60 shaft.

I have some pics somewhere, I'll try to dig them up...
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those pics have to be from frank riens. ha ha sick build mang
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where are you at in bakersfield. im right off allen. i need some fab work done
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:09 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I'm an east sider. Over off Altavista and Bernard by the old Green Frog Market.

I aint no fabber, I just jb weld yo.
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Have you made any progress on the wheel/brake adaptors?

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Nope, went to Hollister all last weekend thursday through Sunday to get some motivation back up... Then we had a power outtage tonight so no progress again, litteraly just got power 5 minutes ago. So hopefully tomorrow after work.
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Jason, looks good as usual. I have to ask, where did you learn all of your fab skills from? Was your old man a machinist or something? I might make it to BB this year just to see your rig!!

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Old 07-26-2007, 09:31 PM   #97 (permalink)
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I had NO fab skills or truck knowledge before 6 years ago... I bought a stick welder and started sticking pieces of metal together and moved on to a lincoln 155 wire feed and got better and better. Just takes practive. For the machining stuff I took a lathe class in college just to do it and got interested in it then just started going in and using the schools machine shop in my free time teaching myself as I went. I learned a ton of truck knowledge on here since about 2002 just searching. Once I got into the heavier stuff I started buying books on the subject.
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Cool, so there is hope for me. I just need the time and tools! The wife and kids take up a lot of my free time!!

I know your a busy guy too. Did you sell off you D60 stuff yet?
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Negative. I was actually thinking today at lunch that I have enough parts (with that 60) to build a moon buggy lol. Think I'd rather sell for $$$ though.
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