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Old 01-03-2010, 12:31 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Since your rig is light, doesn't have a lot of power, and only has 35" steet tires I would think the front end would be OK with some weight added to it. Kurt is probably running a 4.0L? If so then it probably does have quite a bit of front weight. If your rig weighed 2700lbs (just guessing) and was 50/50, adding 200lbs would get you to about 53%. That might be too much weight to start out with, but try filling them up halway and take it to Hannibal to practice some time. The ideal way to do it would be to practice with and without water in the same day. Traction and terrain changes so much on the east coast that climbs that you did last year may be better or worse than last year.
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:51 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Since your rig is light, doesn't have a lot of power, and only has 35" steet tires I would think the front end would be OK with some weight added to it. Kurt is probably running a 4.0L? If so then it probably does have quite a bit of front weight. If your rig weighed 2700lbs (just guessing) and was 50/50, adding 200lbs would get you to about 53%. That might be too much weight to start out with, but try filling them up halway and take it to Hannibal to practice some time. The ideal way to do it would be to practice with and without water in the same day. Traction and terrain changes so much on the east coast that climbs that you did last year may be better or worse than last year.
Our rig is 3100lbs with driver, so 10 to 12 gallons of water in each tire and go from there. We try to stay on top of the front axle shafts, we change them out at least twice is not three times a year. Knock on wood we have yet to break one in competition but what we do is spread the yokes out and when that happens we change them.

As for the rear suspension set up, longer lower arms with less AS?
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:25 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Since your rig is light, doesn't have a lot of power, and only has 35" steet tires I would think the front end would be OK with some weight added to it. Kurt is probably running a 4.0L? If so then it probably does have quite a bit of front weight. If your rig weighed 2700lbs (just guessing) and was 50/50, adding 200lbs would get you to about 53%. That might be too much weight to start out with, but try filling them up halway and take it to Hannibal to practice some time. The ideal way to do it would be to practice with and without water in the same day. Traction and terrain changes so much on the east coast that climbs that you did last year may be better or worse than last year.
Kurt has a shortstar motor and does run water in front and rear weight unknown but you r right it does work very well! and the wheel base is around that number but not sure exactly. the rig works awesome with the wheel base and wieght ratio
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Old 01-03-2010, 02:28 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Kurt has a shortstar motor and does run water in front and rear weight unknown but you r right it does work very well! and the wheel base is around that number but not sure exactly. the rig works awesome with the wheel base and wieght ratio
I thought he ran a shortstar but I was not sure. Thank you very much for the info.
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Old 01-03-2010, 02:31 PM   #105 (permalink)
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hey jake scoot dont for get to build a door on the passanger side so that arron can get is foot in next time
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Old 01-03-2010, 02:36 PM   #106 (permalink)
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hey jake scoot dont for get to build a door on the passanger side so that arron can get is foot in next time
It's #1 on the list.

Congrats on the big dog pic taker dude award.

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Old 01-04-2010, 06:32 AM   #107 (permalink)
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I thought I might have some sequence shots from Rise Above photo but they were mainly drops and saves. and one non save...
These were the only stills I have of a climb. This is after scott built a highway.....

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Old 01-04-2010, 06:44 AM   #108 (permalink)
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While I was looking through the photos, Josh has got some pretty good series. This is about every third photo of this drop. I wasn't sure what happened until I looked at the pictures.
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I'll try and get some climbing video's posted today Jake give me a second to go through them all.

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hey jake scoot dont for get to build a door on the passanger side so that arron can get is foot in next time

That right there is just funny!
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Nice save on that drop!
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Unfortunately, That was all luck.
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Unfortunately, That was all luck.

I wish we had pictures or video of our first course on Saturday and the shootout. Because if the saves were all "luck" then you are one lucky bastard becuse you had alot of nice saves that weekend. Well and you have a really really really really really good spotter.
By the way I am home today with Nick who is out of school.
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oh you must mean this save. There was good luck here too but I'll call it awesome driving if you want!
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photos thanks to werocks photographer of the year! This is every other photo in the series.
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Man, wheelie stands with 50 inches of wheelbase must be a real rush!
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Okay here is the current status of the car. Cage is removed so that we can fix a few bent tubes and add some gussets to the front a pillars. If you’ll also notice the front axle is completely disassembled. We have some plans to upgrade our current 44-9 yet again. We don’t have all the parts ordered yet but once they show up we’ll break down what we have going on.
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Our first order of business is still reworking the rear suspension. After looking at the current suspension design in the new link calculator it was apparent that the lower links were way too short. What would happen as the axle dropped out, is the Anti Squat value would go through the roof. So we cut out the old mounts to move the lowers farther forward. However keeping the uppers mounted in the same location would be our first hurdle. We turned to Josh Thiede (Harley0706) of RC Crawler Fame to help with some 3d modeling to build our brackets. We built the brackets on a mock up frame rail and then transferred them to the car when they were done. Here are the brackets tacked in place and the frame plated.
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One of our other failures this season was our over built links. When we welded the tube adapters into the 3/8” wall tube the Adapters were glowing red all the way thru. That however didn’t mean that we penetrated the 3/8” link well enough so the weld eventually started to crack and pull the rod end out of the tube after 3 seasons. Stay tuned to see how we address this in a few weeks.
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Our other priority for right now is to get the rear bumper revised while the cage is out and we can move the body to help with getting it all welded. Once again we turned to Josh to help turn the ideas in our minds into something that would actually work and look good. Still coming along on this one. We are going to get a quote on having the plate laser cut to save quite a bit of time drilling holes. We’ll post up more as soon as we have it.
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Old 02-14-2010, 03:37 PM   #124 (permalink)
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The rear axle is back under the car minus the lower links that we are waiting on. Still waiting on some new front axle parts. The fab work is done, it is now onto assembly and paint.
Here is the finished rear bumper.



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Well the first of our new Bling 44 parts showed up the other day. Orange Ford knuckles from Reid Racing. Unfornately they toured the western US in a UPS truck for a while before we could get them tracked down. Thanks to Michelle and Gywn at Reid for helping get them tracked down and sent our way. Also thanks to Jeff for his great service.

These things are nice! Seemed to be very well engineered. We opted for new high steer bolts and studs. One of the spindle studs is an actual screw in stud due to the thickness of the knucle over stock. Can't wait to get them installed. But first we have the task of taking our new ford knuckles and building chevy disc brake brackets so we can stay with chevy calipers.

WHY???? One reason is the ball joint can be a weaklink with the 44 stuff so we will still carry a spare set of chevy knuckles with highsteer arms incase we need to replace something in a hurry. No need to change calipers. The other reason is the slide bolt mounting on the ford stuff just isn't as nice as the two stud method on the chevy stuff. Not performance wise... Just preference wise.
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