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Old 12-15-2017, 08:00 AM   #3101 (permalink)
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I’m the OP of this thread. I didn’t think this will be a popular topic at the time I made this thread.

Actually, I think this thread should be left alone, beside deleting gibberish at most.

My suggestion; make a “Super Duty Dana 60 Bilble” tech article, basically similar to Billavista’s Dana 60 bible tech article except it’s all about 99+ Ford D60s. AAANNNDDD most importantly! It get updated/corrected as new, correct and reliable info come up, update on axle shaft upgrade manufacturer availability (but thus section will get deleted whenever they finally catch up and everyone make/sell them), new SD D60 generations come up, etc.

Thoughts? I’m willing to work on this as time permits.
This sounds logical. I have to admit when I got my axle, this thread was already going. I went back and read the whole thing. I don't mind the chit chat while doing that. (I even enjoy it) But now, every so often I need to reference something I know is in here, but hard to find sometimes. (Even in search)

Edit, the "bible" could reference this this thread, so people could read it if so inclined.
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:11 AM   #3102 (permalink)
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I just PM’d some guys on here to get the ball rolling. I’m looking forward to the outcome! I’m sure it’ will be far more informative and more detailed than BillaVista’s original Dana 60 bible.

Edit: we will share a link to the database for public viewing. I’m pretty sure we will ask for some some of your help with pictures to add to the database.

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Old 12-15-2017, 11:11 PM   #3103 (permalink)
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I'm working on the unit bearing section. I pretty much learned that there's 7 different unit bearings part#s for 05-16 year range.

FYI.... Motorcraft brand unit bearings for a 2017 F350 on Rockauto is dirt cheap when compared to 2016-down unit bearings.... stock up if you have the desire to do so.
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excellent, glad to see the project is started up, as my 99-04 project started about a month ago!
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Old 12-16-2017, 02:02 PM   #3105 (permalink)
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I'm working on the unit bearing section. I pretty much learned that there's 7 different unit bearings part#s for 05-16 year range.

FYI.... Motorcraft brand unit bearings for a 2017 F350 on Rockauto is dirt cheap when compared to 2016-down unit bearings.... stock up if you have the desire to do so.
Glad to see a tech thread coming, you will find the differences will be abs sensor related mostly. Ford likes to supersede part numbers too.
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Old 12-16-2017, 04:28 PM   #3106 (permalink)
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Glad to see a tech thread coming, you will find the differences will be abs sensor related mostly. Ford likes to supersede part numbers too.
Three main types are;
1) DRW & SRW hubs aren’t same (thread length and pitch).
2) two ‘generations’, 05-10 and 11-16. Dimensionally they’re same.
3) F-450 and F-550 have 10 lugs.
4*) not really that matter but, the “Pick Up” (non-C&C) F-450 use their own unit bearing (8 lugs). They use a different part#.
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This sounds logical. I have to admit when I got my axle, this thread was already going. I went back and read the whole thing. I don't mind the chit chat while doing that. (I even enjoy it) But now, every so often I need to reference something I know is in here, but hard to find sometimes. (Even in search)

Edit, the "bible" could reference this this thread, so people could read it if so inclined.
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I'm working on the unit bearing section. I pretty much learned that there's 7 different unit bearings part#s for 05-16 year range.

FYI.... Motorcraft brand unit bearings for a 2017 F350 on Rockauto is dirt cheap when compared to 2016-down unit bearings.... stock up if you have the desire to do so.




what is the part number on em? and do 2017 ub interchange with 8lug 2005-2016?
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what is the part number on em? and do 2017 ub interchange with 8lug 2005-2016?
So far I haven’t find the dimension on 2017-current D60 unit bearings. Just look up 2017 F350 on rockauto. While you’re at it, look up 2016 F350 and you’ll see what I mean.
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4*) not really that matter but, the “Pick Up” (non-C&C) F-450 use their own unit bearing (8 lugs). They use a different part#.
i do believe that was for 2011-2013 450s, i know the 08-10s pickup 450s had the 10 lugs and good brakes, and i do believe in either 14 or 15 they went back to the bigger brakes and 10 lug
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:24 PM   #3110 (permalink)
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I tried combing through, but does anyone know off hand if the 1550 long side assembly has enough meat on the shaft to respline for a rear steer? Would the OEM 1550 assembly hold up in a rear steer application? I'm wanting to build a rear steering axle out of the 05 D60 and D80 I have sitting in my garage...

I'll keep looking for diameters...
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I tried combing through, but does anyone know off hand if the 1550 long side assembly has enough meat on the shaft to respline for a rear steer? Would the OEM 1550 assembly hold up in a rear steer application? I'm wanting to build a rear steering axle out of the 05 D60 and D80 I have sitting in my garage...

I'll keep looking for diameters...
I can take some measurements when I get home later today.
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I can take some measurements when I get home later today.
Much appreciated, sir.

Best I can tell, there was a post about Branik resplining some, so maybe it can be done. Looks like the high horse guys stretch the ears and trash the yokes eventually. I'm not high horse, and don't wheel as often as most, so maybe it'll be a low-er cost solution to rear steer until I can afford big bell RCV's or CTM's.
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Old 12-18-2017, 05:39 PM   #3113 (permalink)
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I have had 99-04 shafts cut down and resplined 35. Hudlowe in TN
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Old 12-18-2017, 06:01 PM   #3114 (permalink)
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I have had 99-04 shafts cut down and resplined 35. Hudlowe in TN


Moser or Hudlow did the cut and spline on some 1480 stock long side a few years ago for a rear steer D70 I had.

Pretty sure Hudlow did the chromos that replaced them too. The axle lives under a Tacoma in Michigan now


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Old 12-20-2017, 04:05 PM   #3115 (permalink)
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So why hasn't a single company started making affordable chromolies for these yet? Yukon, g2, Revolution, etc. The options on the market cost as much as a set of RCV's.
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Much appreciated, sir.

Best I can tell, there was a post about Branik resplining some, so maybe it can be done. Looks like the high horse guys stretch the ears and trash the yokes eventually. I'm not high horse, and don't wheel as often as most, so maybe it'll be a low-er cost solution to rear steer until I can afford big bell RCV's or CTM's.
Gah! I completely forgot, I will take the measurements tonight along with a couple pictures for you.
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So why hasn't a single company started making affordable chromolies for these yet? Yukon, g2, Revolution, etc. The options on the market cost as much as a set of RCV's.
Yukon does for the 99-04 atleast.
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Yukon does for the 99-04 atleast.
Yeah, many companies do. Those aren't desirable for swaps now that we have the 05+ at a good price.
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I hate to ask more questions but I'm not sure how to search this.

I'm thinking about picking up an 05+ Front and narrowing/switching to pass drop. My plan would be to use factory gm 60 shafts. As most know, they work out to 69.5" wms with kingpin outters, what will they work out to with the balljoint/ub outters?

Should work well with a 69" wide 99-04 rear (which I have laying around)

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I hate to ask more questions but I'm not sure how to search this.

I'm thinking about picking up an 05+ Front and narrowing/switching to pass drop. My plan would be to use factory gm 60 shafts. As most know, they work out to 69.5" wms with kingpin outters, what will they work out to with the balljoint/ub outters?

Should work well with a 69" wide 99-04 rear (which I have laying around)
There's 3.87" difference between the total of SD inners vs Chevy. So if you subtract that from the 72.5" width of the 05 axle you get 68.63".
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There's 3.87" difference between the total of SD inners vs Chevy. So if you subtract that from the 72.5" width of the 05 axle you get 68.63".
Thanks, I guess I could have looked that up. I was thinking about trying to figure out center of u joint to wms.

I'm surprised that it's less on the superduty stuff than the older stuff. Maybe I'll need to figure out a slightly different shaft setup to make it so the front isn't narrower than the rear.
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There's 3.87" difference between the total of SD inners vs Chevy. So if you subtract that from the 72.5" width of the 05 axle you get 68.63".
Thanks, I guess I could have looked that up. I was thinking about trying to figure out center of u joint to wms.

I'm surprised that it's less on the superduty stuff than the older stuff. Maybe I'll need to figure out a slightly different shaft setup to make it so the front isn't narrower than the rear.
The SD inners are overall wider. But you were talking about making the axle narrower by using the older stuff right?

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Not so worried about the width, as much as moving the diff in a little. Looks like the 78-79 Ford short side is the longest option. Or just get some 550 shafts and cut and respline the long side.

Do you have the 450/550 shaft measurements?
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Not so worried about the width, as much as moving the diff in a little. Looks like the 78-79 Ford short side is the longest option. Or just get some 550 shafts and cut and respline the long side.

Do you have the 450/550 shaft measurements?
IIRC the short side 450/550 is 19” end to center of joint
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I run the chevy/dodge long inner on the passenger side, narrowing the housing Right side 4"s. Works well matching to my 14bolt in my LJ.
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