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Old 12-18-2018, 05:23 PM   #3676 (permalink)
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Could you please get a measurement from the back side of the C, to the face of the knuckle where the unit bearing mounts?

If possible, also the the mounting face of the unit bearing?
I havenít havenít been in this thread in a while. Iíll get the measurements this weekend for you.
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Old 12-18-2018, 05:34 PM   #3677 (permalink)
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What's out there to mount the wilwood calipers, or is everyone running them just building their own mounts?
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99-15 f250 350 is same ball joints..
99-04 f450 550 is same bj as f250, same spacing also.
05-up f250 350 larger spacing than 99-04
05-up f450 550 larger yet and larger ball joints
Picture of 99-04 250, 99-04 450 and 05Up 250 left to right
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Could only find 05+ specs.

Are the 99-04 F450/550 2wd mono tube knuckles the same as 4x4 ?
Should be same, excluding center section, shafts and different unit bearings. I think, anyway. But, the 99-04 F450/550 knuckles are a little different, to move calipers outward for the >14Ē rotors.
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Old 12-18-2018, 06:00 PM   #3679 (permalink)
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What's out there to mount the wilwood calipers, or is everyone running them just building their own mounts?


Not sure whatís involved but I stumbled across this today in my internet travels.

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Old 12-18-2018, 06:24 PM   #3680 (permalink)
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Not sure whatís involved but I stumbled across this today in my internet travels.

2005-12 Ford F-250/350 4wd Wilwood Big Brake Kits


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Is it just my tendency to overbuild things, or does the caliper mount bracket look chincy?
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I havenít havenít been in this thread in a while. Iíll get the measurements this weekend for you.
I don't need it anymore, already got rid of the others I had and went with the SD outers.
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Jesse Haines was selling brackets for the wilwood calipers
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Old 12-18-2018, 09:42 PM   #3683 (permalink)
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What's out there to mount the wilwood calipers, or is everyone running them just building their own mounts?
Branik is making a Kit
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:53 AM   #3684 (permalink)
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Building my axles so that I can SAS my '99 Ranger and I wanted to get opinions. Part of my goal with this build is "Build it once" so here's my question. 06' axle came with the 1480 joints and they are in pretty good shape. Would it be worth the $375 or so to go ahead and buy the 1550 joints?

Specs for the rig are fairly mild 4.0(to be upgraded to 5.8 in the future), AT, 1354 TC, 5.38 gears, Truetrac ft/Grizzly locker rear, 39-42" tires.

Rig will be used for exploring, and what most of you would consider mild wheeling. Kind of a big gay mall crawler that can survive being used without falling apart. I can't see ever being able to break 1480 joints but........
You'll be fine with the 1480s if you're not going to beat on it in the rocks, more than likely. If the joints ever do go bad, I'd spend the $380 on the 1550 shafts since they come with fresh spicer joints and knuckle seals.
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so has anyone been able to fit a 16.5 or even a 16 inch wheel on a 05+ diff? can i swap brakes to clear them or am i stuck with the 04 and older stuff?
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Old 12-21-2018, 02:44 PM   #3686 (permalink)
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so has anyone been able to fit a 16.5 or even a 16 inch wheel on a 05+ diff? can i swap brakes to clear them or am i stuck with the 04 and older stuff?
Some 16.5 wheels fit with a little clearancing on the calipers
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Old 12-21-2018, 02:51 PM   #3687 (permalink)
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so has anyone been able to fit a 16.5 or even a 16 inch wheel on a 05+ diff? can i swap brakes to clear them or am i stuck with the 04 and older stuff?
16.5 h1 wheels with 2" spacers. I had to shave off about 1/8" on the caliper.
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16.5 h1 wheels with 2" spacers. I had to shave off about 1/8" on the caliper.
re centered h1 or stock with spacers?
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Old 12-22-2018, 10:51 AM   #3689 (permalink)
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Could you please get a measurement from the back side of the C, to the face of the knuckle where the unit bearing mounts?

If possible, also the the mounting face of the unit bearing?
The Reid SD unit bearing mount face to the inner weld point of the Spicer Ultimate inner C is 10.25Ē
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so has anyone been able to fit a 16.5 or even a 16 inch wheel on a 05+ diff? can i swap brakes to clear them or am i stuck with the 04 and older stuff?
I have recentered H1ís with pressed centers and they clear the calipers fine with no clearancing required.
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Old 12-22-2018, 07:08 PM   #3691 (permalink)
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I thought this was mildly relevant to this thread. This will be hands down the easiest, most cost effective way to build a full 40 spline rear axle.

300m kit - https://www.markwilliams.com/50265.html

4340 kit - https://www.markwilliams.com/50255.html

3.5" floater cups - https://www.markwilliams.com/50290.html

4 floater cups - https://www.markwilliams.com/50295.html

MW is telling me they are dedicated to growing this offroad market. Just recently they carved out an off-road section of the website to keep things from getting buried in their plethora of street parts.
https://www.markwilliams.com/off-road.html
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Stock so I have 5" BS
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I thought this was mildly relevant to this thread. This will be hands down the easiest, most cost effective way to build a full 40 spline rear axle.

300m kit - https://www.markwilliams.com/50265.html

4340 kit - https://www.markwilliams.com/50255.html

3.5" floater cups - https://www.markwilliams.com/50290.html

4 floater cups - https://www.markwilliams.com/50295.html

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https://www.markwilliams.com/off-road.html
That's terrific. And competitively priced. I believe unit bearings on 4 corners are definitely the way to go. Never drop a wheel bearing in the frozen creek on grapevine (Harlan ky) again...

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Old 12-23-2018, 10:16 AM   #3694 (permalink)
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That's terrific. And competitively priced. I believe unit bearings on 4 corners are definitely the way to go. Never drop a wheel bearing in the frozen creek on grapevine (Harlan ky) again...

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That's exactly where i want to go. 14 bolt rear with sd unit bearings. Spindle bearings suck ass in water and mud. Everyone i tell that's what i want to do with my rear axle says im stupid and unit bearings are worse than spindle bearings.... the only issue i see is having the units drilled for 8x6.5, but if the dodge units will work, that is a very viable solution imo
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If you're running them on all four corners, why redrill? Plenty of beadlocks available in 17" for 8x170 lug pattern.
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Old 12-23-2018, 06:55 PM   #3696 (permalink)
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Got a couple of questions. Iím running 99-04 outers on a set of fabricated 9Ē housings. Iím running first gen tundra brakes (rotors and calipers). The calipers mount the same as earlier Toyota ifs calipers, and I thought I read in here somewhere that Wilwood calipers were basically the same as far as mounting holes. I have some brackets that bolt to the knuckles and the caliper then mounts to that bracket. The brackets I have were made on a plasma table and I was wondering if anyone made a bracket for this already? Next question is on the rear axle Iím using TG pockets for the unit bearings with the same brakes. I was wondering if the caliper brackets TG sells would work for Toyota calipers, if they are in fact the same as a wilwood caliper.

The next issue I have is my drive slugs. I have ecgs drive flanges on the front and rear. When they are all bolted up there is some play in the cap not letting them seal completely. Basically the slug inside is all the way against the cap and canít go any tighter, is that normal? Thanks in advance, hopefully this stuff hasnít already been asked, this thread is super long yet very helpful.
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If you're running them on all four corners, why redrill? Plenty of beadlocks available in 17" for 8x170 lug pattern.
Because of what i currently have. I doubt with the big changes im making that I'll be able to afford a new set of beadlocks along with all the other stuff
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That's exactly where i want to go. 14 bolt rear with sd unit bearings. Spindle bearings suck ass in water and mud. Everyone i tell that's what i want to do with my rear axle says im stupid and unit bearings are worse than spindle bearings.... the only issue i see is having the units drilled for 8x6.5, but if the dodge units will work, that is a very viable solution imo
Redrill them using @patooyee Ďs drill jig.

https://patparts.com/products/sd60-m...ug-drill-plate
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I thought I read in here somewhere that Wilwood calipers were basically the same as far as mounting holes.
I see that stated everywhere as well. I don't know how that rumor got started but it's not true. I make a Rockwell pinion brake kit that uses the toy callipers you speak of as well as one that uses a wilwood. When I designed the wilwood I specifically spoke with my wilwood rep trying to find a caliper that matched the Toyota bolts. (So that I could use the same bracket.)
At the time they did not make one, which I confirmed using their website as well. I assure you that the Toyota bracket and wilwood bracket that i manufacture are different.

Now I know nothing about tundra brakes, but if they're the same as old mini truck mounting dimensions then wilwood doesn't make a direct swap caliper.
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That's exactly where i want to go. 14 bolt rear with sd unit bearings. Spindle bearings suck ass in water and mud. Everyone i tell that's what i want to do with my rear axle says im stupid and unit bearings are worse than spindle bearings.... the only issue i see is having the units drilled for 8x6.5, but if the dodge units will work, that is a very viable solution imo
Redrill them using @patooyee ‘s drill jig.

https://patparts.com/products/sd60-m...ug-drill-plate
Thank you!

But I'm with Chris. If you're using them on all 4 corners just stay with 8x170.
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