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Old 07-23-2019, 10:08 AM   #3976 (permalink)
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You could always redrill the unit bearing and use a Dodge/Chevy spacer.
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Mid 90’s dodge spacers won’t fit. Hub bore is too small and not enough material to bore them.
More of a tow rig question but may pertain to H1 wheels. Will 04- spacers fit over an 05+ locking hub? The 05 8x200 spacer is too large to redrill for 8x6.5

I looked a a set of 2015 Ram spacers in the parking lot yesterday, looks like they might work if bored out. Still curious on the Ford version.

Edit: Reading back through the thread and researching, looks like 04- srw/drw and 05 srw have the same wheel bore. In theory the 99-04 drw spacers should fit on an 05
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I hadn't seen the update posted:
https://d3qx1uccksbb2n.cloudfront.ne...-PNI-26719.pdf

Posted earlier, but it looks like no love for the 1550

and they appear to be proud of them
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...x-wj/overview/
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I hadn't seen the update posted:
https://d3qx1uccksbb2n.cloudfront.ne...-PNI-26719.pdf

Posted earlier, but it looks like no love for the 1550

and they appear to be proud of them
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...x-wj/overview/
Holy crap! I guess they're banking on the fact that people already view Spicer's name as the strongest OEM brand. I wonder if the price is high because they haven't ramped up production yet?
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Holy crap! I guess they're banking on the fact that people already view Spicer's name as the strongest OEM brand. I wonder if the price is high because they haven't ramped up production yet?
or just like the snap on price on shit like punches

they're going to be warrantying a lot of them so may as well charge a lot to cover the comebacks from everyone that doesn't grease the shit out of them or decides to stick them in a driveshaft
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I hadn't seen the update posted:
https://d3qx1uccksbb2n.cloudfront.ne...-PNI-26719.pdf

Posted earlier, but it looks like no love for the 1550

and they appear to be proud of them
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...x-wj/overview/

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WFO has them for $545 with the grease and gun.
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or just like the snap on price on shit like punches

they're going to be warrantying a lot of them so may as well charge a lot to cover the comebacks from everyone that doesn't grease the shit out of them or decides to stick them in a driveshaft
I didn't see anything about warrantee. Did I miss it?

I notice it does say "wheel joint". I assume with no needle bearings, that's the only place they want it.
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05up, no machining required to fit a 40 spline axle.
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Sweet. So no real reason to run 35s when you can just buy a 40 spline locker, shafts, and flanges to begin with.

I will be replacing the ring and pinion in the hp30 to get me by while I build these tons up on the side. Might as well take my time and do it right with 40 spline stuff.

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I hadn't seen the update posted:
https://d3qx1uccksbb2n.cloudfront.ne...-PNI-26719.pdf

Posted earlier, but it looks like no love for the 1550

and they appear to be proud of them
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...x-wj/overview/

Fug me with a pitchfork! <a href="https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="eek" >:-)</a>
Might as well buy RCV axles by the time you get shafts with these joints, nearly the same price. If you ever break a part there is only one company to deal with for warranty.
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Might as well buy RCV axles by the time you get shafts with these joints, nearly the same price. If you ever break a part there is only one company to deal with for warranty.


Meh... RCV has a good rep for warranties, because folks need to use it, regularly... (Plus you need to add the wait time for your replacement RCVís...) Then, you keep breaking them and they end up not warrantying them any longer. Has happened to a few folks I know. Why not just buy something stronger and cheaper for your 05+ SD60 axle. There are better and cheaper options available than RCV, for sure.
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Meh... RCV has a good rep for warranties, because folks need to use it, regularly... (Plus you need to add the wait time for your replacement RCVís...) Then, you keep breaking them and they end up not warrantying them any longer. Has happened to many folks I know. Why not just buy something stronger and cheaper for your 05+ SD60 axle. There are better and cheaper options available than RCV, for sure.

That sumbitch fits in a '05-'12 Dana 60?!!

What's the spline count?

Does Ouverson make a complete axle set for said '05-'12 Dana 60?
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New release from Wilwood, kits for 05+ 250/350 axles front and rear:

http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/Flyers/fl417.pdf
http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/Flyers/fl418.pdf

Kind of pricey at $2,127.94 ea but the ability of people here to spend money never ceases to amaze me. I am a Wilwood dealer so if anyone is interested feel free to PM me.
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That sumbitch fits in a '05-'12 Dana 60?!!



What's the spline count?



Does Ouverson make a complete axle set for said '05-'12 Dana 60?


Yep, it does. So, does this Ujoint thatís bigger than a 1550. Lots of info about this set up in this thread, including my build thread. The outer Stub spline count iirc is 32, but it directly engages the splines on the unit bearing. You get to lose the drive slug. Just slide in the outer stub and attach the outer plate, itís that simple. The inners are 40 spline.





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It directly splines into the unit bearing, no drive slug required. Havenít seen it on their website yet, so I have no idea if a shaft set is available.


They have never been on their website. You call up Ouverson to place your order. Then, itís a wait for the next production run. Iíve been running this set of axles for just over a year. The axle set was purchased two years ago. I had them a bit before the current 609, based off of these axles and the 05 SD60 inner C/outer combo, was built. .
***Stan H, at Branik, has been threatening to make them, as well. But, after recent conversations with him, there is no production date or schedule for them. ***

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Meh... RCV has a good rep for warranties, because folks need to use it, regularly... (Plus you need to add the wait time for your replacement RCVís...) Then, you keep breaking them and they end up not warrantying them any longer. Has happened to a few folks I know. Why not just buy something stronger and cheaper for your 05+ SD60 axle. There are better and cheaper options available than RCV, for sure.
RCV makes the big bells that fit the exact same way and you don't have to wait for a production run.

Not knocking on OEM stuff, but you gotta compare apple to apple here.

Comparing the OEM rockwell joints VS RCV dana60 stuff isn't really fair.
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Meh... RCV has a good rep for warranties, because folks need to use it, regularly... (Plus you need to add the wait time for your replacement RCVís...) Then, you keep breaking them and they end up not warrantying them any longer. Has happened to a few folks I know. Why not just buy something stronger and cheaper for your 05+ SD60 axle. There are better and cheaper options available than RCV, for sure. ]
I always thought RCV was outrageous expensive, but at least you never buy it again. I heard they warrantee "no questions asked". So I looked on their website.

Warranty does not cover:
ē Intentional or willful destruction of product
ē Worn items
ē Twisted splines/bars
ē Boots
ē Stripped Threads
ē Modification of the product
ē Failure from improper installation
ē Failure from other than intended use

Can't say I like that.
What is "intentional destruction"? Stepping on the go pedal?
What about "worn items"? Isn't everything worn once you install it?
How about "intended use". Driving off road?

The worst line in the warrantee I didn't copy. It was something like RCV has soul right to decide about the above disclaimers. I'm not saying they are wrong to do this. I would say they need to do it. But knowing this, the price is real hard to justify.

I've been longing to buy RCV, not now.
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RCV makes the big bells that fit the exact same way and you don't have to wait for a production run.



Not knocking on OEM stuff, but you gotta compare apple to apple here.



Comparing the OEM rockwell joints VS RCV dana60 stuff isn't really fair.


Comparing SD60 stuff to SD60 stuff. Depending on when you catch them you have to wait on RCV, too. Let alone the $$$ difference. You can purchase the entire OEM axle set for less than the regular RCV 60 stuff. Wonder how much more you could save running OEM over the big bell stuff.
We have to use RCV for a few of our applications and it works. I just know quite few people that have blown through their RCV warranties and Iíve had to deal with several trail repairs, myself.

Apples to apples, whatís the big bell stuff cost and how is it holding up? We will be installing a set of the big bell axles on a new buggy build running a front 05 SD60, soon. Iíll learn firsthand how they hold up, after the buggy gets some AZ trails under its belt. Until then, I donít have any first hand experience with them. The big boy RCV stuff we run in the 4400 car, is pretty cool. But, it takes a ton of maintenance to keep them working-complete teardown after each race and god forbid we run them through water.
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If anyone is thinking of building a 9" or 14 bolt, Down to Fab has the UD60 inner C's on sale for $100 each. Saves the trouble of removing and machining inner C's from a factory axle.

https://downtofab.com/products/spicer-2023561
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That Ouverson stuff is bad ass! What's the details on that u-joint? What is the approximate price on that setup?
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That Ouverson stuff is bad ass! What's the details on that u-joint? What is the approximate price on that setup?


I listed out the U joint specs, in my build thread and somewhere, earlier, in this one. Was easiest just to take a screenshot of my build thread with the exact specs, to answer your question. Regarding price, I picked up my setup for cheap, as a part of bigger purchase. Iím told the set up goes for $3,200, these days. But, the actual price is just a phone call away.

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Those are some serious joints! I guess it's a bushing design like other aftermarket joints? Price isn't terrible considering what they are.
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Agreed, that is a bigger joint. Well played
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It's his rockwell joint. So aftermarket rockwell strength in a d60 package.
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