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Old 10-23-2019, 09:47 AM   #4126 (permalink)
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Everything has been answered in the thread before.

Go back to page 1 and read, that how I did to figure it out.

Orrr, you buy another axle and you see what fits and what doesn't.
What's up, dude?!

Hope things are well in your nape of the woods.




On to business:
You are correct.

I've read this thread at least a half dozen times cover to cover.

And 5X that just browsing for answers.

In fact; I'm currently reading it cover to cover again.
FYI: photobucket fucked up the pics; the ones directly from photobucket are fuzzy.


As stated many times in this thread; this needs to be put in 'bible' form just like Bill ďBillaVistaĒ Ansell's 14 bolt bible.

In one month this thread will be ten years old, yet is still very much alive and kicking with updated info etc.
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:26 AM   #4127 (permalink)
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I'm doing just fine, thank you !

I'm sure that everyone would appreciate if you compile the info and make said Bible yourself
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I'm doing just fine, thank you !

I'm sure that everyone would appreciate if you compile the info and make said Bible yourself
Yes, would be very much appreciated.

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Does anyone know the bolt pattern, that the DRW adapter bolts to, of the '05+ F-550 Dana (Super)60?

It looks smaller than the WMS bolt pattern (10 on 225).


This is UB/hub assembly:


This is what the DRW adapter bolts to, correct?


Or to put it another way:
If the WMS bolt pattern on the DRW adapter is 10 on 225, what is the UB/hub assembly bolt pattern?
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Or to put it another way:
If the WMS bolt pattern on the DRW adapter is 10 on 225, what is the UB/hub assembly bolt pattern?
TIMKEN SP940203 specs say 6.693".

CENTRIC 40265023 specs says 6.692" or 169.9mm
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TIMKEN SP940203 specs say 6.693".

CENTRIC 40265023 specs says 6.692" or 169.9mm

Would that make it a 10 on 170 (assuming it's 10 lugs) then?



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Would that make it a 10 on 170 (assuming it's 10 lugs) then?



Thanks for the specs.
I count 10... but I could be wrong

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Well there it is; 10 on 170!
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Dumb question
Will said 05+ UB be big enough for the F-550's axle shafts to fit through?
Yes 1550 shafts and joints will fit
IIRC; said F-550 axle shafts are HUGE.

Will I use the F-550's factory lockouts too?
Yes, stock manual or aftermarket manual or slugs are best, auto-lock might be an issue.

Another option(?):
If I simply remove the DRW adapters and use 20" rims with a 10-on-225 lug pattern, will I be good to go then?
Yes you can, but not worth the hassle. The 550 rear axle with matching lug pattern is not usefull based off of limited gearing and locker options. Lug pattern is smaller on the front UB without the adapter. If you use a sterling rear everything will be 8 on 170.

It looks like either way; I'll be spending about $1,400+ ($550 per custom rim, for example).

Unit bearing are almost that much too.
I got my UB online for cheap, just have to search around. Or find a good used set.



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Old 10-30-2019, 08:09 AM   #4135 (permalink)
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Iím 90% sure 2013+ rotors & calipers brakes are direct bolt-on upgrade on 99-04 F250/350ís D50/60. Great upgrade for tow rigs without the need to use F450/550 knuckles. (2013+ caliperís brackets move caliper further to clear the 14.5Ē rotor)
I think your on to something here. It looks like ujoint offroad has something like it....

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Old 11-04-2019, 12:31 PM   #4136 (permalink)
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99-04 KNUCKLES

Does anyone know exactly what needs to be done to run the lower ball joints in the upper position on the 99-04 knuckles. I know I have read about it but cant seem to find any info.
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Maching knuckle for larger o.d. ball joint, special machined alignment cams, etc... $$$$
OR, we stock billet steel EMF ball joints for superduty knuckles that are rebuildable in knuckle ( if you ever wear one out) and will be stronger than the lower swap deal anyways.. uses all stock alignment cams, etc..
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Maching knuckle for larger o.d. ball joint, special machined alignment cams, etc... $$$$
OR, we stock billet steel EMF ball joints for superduty knuckles that are rebuildable in knuckle ( if you ever wear one out) and will be stronger than the lower swap deal anyways.. uses all stock alignment cams, etc..
Those are what I am buying when my balljoints wear out eventually. I liked being able to add an extra 2 degrees of caster using the upper cams, these are essential for dialing in a vehicle that sees a lot of road miles. Emf designed theirs much better than the dynatrac balljoints, which I believe are just a small uniball inside a housing.
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emfs are big money too. Is there enough material in the alignment cams for the larger ball joint or do the Cs need to machined as well?
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emfs are big money too. Is there enough material in the alignment cams for the larger ball joint or do the Cs need to machined as well?
The taper is much larger, you would have to get custom cams made, I doubt there would be enough material to adjust more than .5 of a degree though.
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info on Ford Super Duty Dana 60 axle

Iíve run XRF lower BJís in the upper slot of my last two 609ís. One had Dodge dually outers and the other is an 05 SD60 outer. Not sure how much meat is there for the 99-04 outer, to be cut for the mod. Itís a pretty easy thing to do.
Weíve got a jig, so itís an easy set up and cut. We also custom cut the cam shims for proper alignment. Iíve put a lot of punishing miles on both of the 609ís. The XRF lower BJís have never let me down/gotten loose.

If thereís room to do it, do it. The mod works well and is very dependable.
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Has anyone seen a super duty 60 like this? 10 lug and double cardan type u joint?



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Has anyone seen a super duty 60 like this? 10 lug and double cardan type u joint?



https://imgur.com/gallery/7f2D4v5
They are in front wheel drive busses.
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Can they be swapped out to stock shafts?
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Does anyone know exactly what needs to be done to run the lower ball joints in the upper position on the 99-04 knuckles. I know I have read about it but cant seem to find any info.
Iíve been making the Balljoint Delete kits for a few years now that give you 3* or any combination....catch up lol
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Iíve been making the Balljoint Delete kits for a few years now that give you 3* or any combination....catch up lol
I didn't say anything about a ball joint delete kit? I don't want a ball joint delete kit. Who needs to catch up?
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I didn't say anything about a ball joint delete kit? I don't want a ball joint delete kit. Who needs to catch up?
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if anyone has the cad file handy for the 05+ SD unit bearings or for the steering knuckle, can someone measure the bolt pattern for the unit bearing mounting to the knuckle? Im going to cut out a few plates on the table to mount a spare UB on a spare tire holder. The 4-bolt flange.

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if anyone has the cad file handy for the 05+ SD unit bearings or for the steering knuckle, can someone measure the bolt pattern for the unit bearing mounting to the knuckle? Im going to cut out a few plates on the table to mount a spare UB on a spare tire holder. The 4-bolt flange.

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