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Old 02-02-2012, 09:03 AM   #26 (permalink)
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could it be narrowed like the other dana 60s? saying this because of the cast piece of steel in the driver side next to the pumpkin
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hopefully like may or sooner.. the cores are a bitch to find...
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:49 AM   #28 (permalink)
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so these 2005-12 dana 60 have a hp,larger ring and pinion, bigger knuckles, and are fairly new (not as mistreated) plus not as expensive or sought after as earlier 60s. Whats not to like about them except for the metric lug?
The aftermarket has been a little slow to catch up. No high steer available that I know of. I had a buddy mill my passenger knuckle and he made me a high steer arm. Also you can't run a straight tie rod if you attach it to the knuckle stock steering arms (above or below)- the diff is in the way. Only one company makes flanges and they're twice the price of "normal" 60 flanges. There's only like 1" of axle tube on the drivers side which means that unless you use the stock radius arm mounts cast into the diff, that you have to cut off the huge ass mounts and weld a bracket to the cast iron. I did it and have been DD'ing it for over a year, but it made me nervous as shit because I had never welded to cast. Also having the pumpkin so far to the drivers side can make packaging difficult with the front driveshaft. My driveshaft sits about 1/2" from the lower link on that side. I'm running the axle under an 01 chevy 1500. Anything with a narrower frame and the shaft may get into the frame at full bump.

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could it be narrowed like the other dana 60s? saying this because of the cast piece of steel in the driver side next to the pumpkin
See above. There is a little piece of axle tube on that side, so you could retube it. To narrow one, I would just take it all out of the passenger side. Then you can use a stock driver side shaft, and the pumpkin would be more centered.
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:22 AM   #29 (permalink)
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hopefully like may or sooner.. the cores are a bitch to find...
I'll see what I can dig up. Maybe we could do another trade? I don't have any 05 and up outers at the moment, but I'll see if I can find some.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:57 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Another option for these axles is use the 92-97 Ford Ball Joint knuckles and you will get rid of the unit bearings and have the 8x6.5 bolt pattern. We have converted 3 axles so far using the knuckles out from those years.

Another option bolt pattern wise, Currie is redrilling the unit bearings and rotors on these to 8x6.5 pattern. I don't know the cost as we haven't had one done as of yet but a customer was telling me about it.

If you are content with unit bearings, ORU makes a high steer knuckle for the Super Duty axles that goes for $259.00. Most of the unit bearing failures are from high speed, dedicated trail rigs usually don't have those issues. The only people who will suffer with the unit bearings will be the rigs that pull double duty between trail and daily driving.

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Another option for these axles is use the 92-97 Ford Ball Joint knuckles and you will get rid of the unit bearings and have the 8x6.5 bolt pattern. We have converted 3 axles so far using the knuckles out from those years.

Another option bolt pattern wise, Currie is redrilling the unit bearings and rotors on these to 8x6.5 pattern. I don't know the cost as we haven't had one done as of yet but a customer was telling me about it.

If you are content with unit bearings, ORU makes a high steer knuckle for the Super Duty axles that goes for $259.00. Most of the unit bearing failures are from high speed, dedicated trail rigs usually don't have those issues. The only people who will suffer with the unit bearings will be the rigs that pull double duty between trail and daily driving.

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I thought you could only use the 92-97 knuckles on the 99-04 axles, but I could be wrong.

Also, why is everyone so intent on getting rid of the 8x170? Carry your own spare(s) and you'll never have an issue. Yeah wheels are a little harder to find, but it's less effort and money than swapping out everything and then re-converting to 35 spline outers.
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If you are content with unit bearings, ORU makes a high steer knuckle for the Super Duty axles that goes for $259.00. Derek
The ORU knuckle is massive and retarted at best. I had planned on one originally and actually bought it........then returned it. The relocated mount is stupid high and as far as Im concerned is only designed for big ghey trucks with 25" lifts.

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I thought you could only use the 92-97 knuckles on the 99-04 axles, but I could be wrong.

Also, why is everyone so intent on getting rid of the 8x170? Carry your own spare(s) and you'll never have an issue. Yeah wheels are a little harder to find, but it's less effort and money than swapping out everything and then re-converting to 35 spline outers.
Im quite certain you are correct on years. Though the measurements may be the same, Im quite certain the balljoints are much larger and not compatable. I could be wrong tho....
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very informative thread on the superduty dana 60
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:00 AM   #34 (permalink)
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ok so i have a 2001 super duty 60 and a sterling 10.5 rear. im not 100% sure of what it came out of (250,350, etc)...

i did see a build on here where the guy cut the cast away from the housing to expose more tube on the driver side.
https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=830206

i think id like to do this so i dont have to weld my coil/shock/lower mount to the cast. does this seem plausible so i can stuff it under my 2004 rubicon?
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if im not mistaken he even used the mounts im going to use from ballistic!
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:39 PM   #36 (permalink)
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if im not mistaken he even used the mounts im going to use from ballistic!
I don't see why not, im using the same brackets and cut the same amount of cast out of my housing on a yj using coil springs.
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[QUOTE=deanschool;14001224]ok so i have a 2001 super duty 60 and a sterling 10.5 rear. im not 100% sure of what it came out of (250,350, etc)...



Hey man just an FYI if your certain about the year of your front axle being an 01? it is not a dana 60 its a dana 50. Only way really to find out, pull your axle shaft and count the splines. Just looking at the axles externally you cannot tell the difference between the 50 and 60. its in the guts. the 50's are 30 spline. and the R&P are smaller.
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You can check the size of the pinion yoke to see if its a 60 or not.
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Only way really to find out, pull your axle shaft and count the splines. Just looking at the axles externally you cannot tell the difference between the 50 and 60. its in the guts. the 50's are 30 spline. and the R&P are smaller.
Wrong. Theres tons of was to identify it without tearing it appart. First, theres a sticker on the lond side tube. In the corner it will either say 248 or 229. 248 is the measurment of the ring gear in milimieters. 248 mm=9.75 inches. Which is the diameter of a Dana 60 ring gear. You can also tell by the pinion nut. 1 5/16 is D60.....1 1/4 is D50. You can also tell by the diff itself. The 60 measures about an inch longer than a 50.
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Just for comparrison, here is a similar pic of an 05' and up super 60 (f450/550):
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The Super60's are a little bigger in some area's than the regular 05' and up 60's. Here are a few more pics of a super60 that I am converting to 8 lug (metric):

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Yes they do have 1550 ujoint's
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These axles are very wide though. Even after converting it to single wheel 8 lug wheel hubs, it will still be about a 79 wms.
Would you happen to still have the 10-lug adapters? And if so, are they for sale?
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Shorter...How much shorter? My 04 30 spline stubs are 9.39" long, and I thought that was short.
This is what I mean by SHORT. OEM '05+ SD D60 stub.



Though, once the OEM lockouts are removed there is room to use longer, custom stubs for ease of machining and full hub spline engagement. Here are some custom Yukon 4340 stubs I had made.



And finally, just for the sake of getting some pics in this thread, here are some of my high steer set up and hubs (redrilled 8x6.5)





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If you want high steer for the 05+ super duty axles, Toby Lavender from XXX traction has figured it out. Give him a call.
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I put a 06 60 in my 98 Durango, I used the factory ford steering box, I had to shorten the linkage a inch or so. I made spring buckets and use the factory spring mounts. I also used the stock ford radius arms. I install 4:88 with a lock rite. It is by far the beefest 60 I have ever pulled apart.
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What is everybody using for spring plates and u bolts when running leaf springs with these axles? Ive got an 02 60 and I need a set just not sure what I need.
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This is what I mean by SHORT. OEM '05+ SD D60 stub.

Though, once the OEM lockouts are removed there is room to use longer, custom stubs for ease of machining and full hub spline engagement. Here are some custom Yukon 4340 stubs I had made.
What did the chromo axles cost?
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Do the unit bearings on the super60's have the same mounting as the std 250/350 unit bearing?

Are the ball joints stronger/bigger on them too?

The clearance for the 1550's might be worth going to ball joint.
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yes, the 05'-up knuckles use the same unit pattern (all), 99-04 is smaller..
not 100% on the ball joints but i will check..
basically the inner c is taller on the 05'-up dana 60 to accomidate the 1550 u-joint, but, not all 2005'-up axles came with the bigger u-joints, they were all 35 spline but the "super 60" had the 1550 joints. not all f-450 10 lug axles had the bigger shafts, the unit i picked up was a f-450 with a 3.73 gear (non-10") and std. axle shafts but had the 10 lug adaptors. the way the dana chart reads, any axle with 3.54, 3.73 or 4.10 gears had the small shafts and standard 9.75" gear, any axle with 4.30, 4.88 or 5.38 gears had 1550 shafts and the 10" "super" gear. you can swap the axles or gears from either one either way...
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Can you put the 10" super 60 gears in the 99-04 housings?
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