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Old 09-26-2002, 09:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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anyone ever come out with the 14bolt spool

Not the mini spool, the full spool. Did some searching and didn't come up with much.
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Old 09-26-2002, 09:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think Mr. Miller did.
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Old 09-26-2002, 09:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If a detroit is strong enough to fit inside a stock carrier, then why wouldn't a mini spool work?

Now, tear it apart and weld it!
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Old 09-26-2002, 09:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I really dont see much of a disadvantage to a mini spool in a 14. afterall the detroit doesnt replace the carrier either.
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Two things, does welding actually work? Have heard lots of different opinions. And how strong are the mini spools?
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The problem with mini's on other diffs is you still have the stock carrier. Thats really not an issue with a 14 bolt. I cant comment on welding.
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Old 09-26-2002, 09:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Was reading a post you made awhile back about welding the coloradok5 way and how it didn't work. Do you have any pics of yours and or details of what you did?




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If a detroit is strong enough to fit inside a stock carrier, then why wouldn't a mini spool work?

Now, tear it apart and weld it!
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Old 09-26-2002, 09:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I tried welding it the ColoradoK5 way:



However, the welds dented in after a couple of runs and I was getting a lot of play.

So, I welded the spiders to each other and now it works just like a spool.
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Old 09-26-2002, 09:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I too was concerned with welding mine so after I did it, and before I hit the trail, I tried to destroy it. In double low, with 45" tires and a 425 CID Caddy, I couldnt break it. I really tried hard too. I still havent broke it, and am pretty sure now that I wont. I do have a spare just in case, since its super easy to swap out a 14 bolt diff, but leave it in the tow rig on most runs.

I used 7018, 300 degrees of pre-heat, and wrapped it in some leather gloves and rags for the cool down. Burrying it in sand would work better. I have been told by some old timers that using inconel rod works alot better, so that is what I will try next time.


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Old 09-26-2002, 09:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have done this with my 14 bolt. works great... I haven't noticed any play in the gears, though I have been concerned about the same problem.. I however did mine a little different than the colorado4x4 article explains...So possibly that is why I am not having the same problem..Or I just haven't had it yet.



I plan on scrounging another couple of spiders from the yard and welding them up, just in case I blow one out.
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Use some 7018, I have some friend that had welded front and rears and never have broken. If you are not sure about your welding someone would probaly weld it up for you.
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Old 09-26-2002, 11:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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7018 good choice

I agree the 7018's are a good choice to weld the spiders, when I did mine I welded a little at a time as to not get the gears too hot all at once and then let them cool down I spent a whole day, because I would weld a bit then just leave it. I have had the same 14 bolt for 6 years now and it's been turning 54'' tall 20'' wide combine tires the whole time. If you take your time and do it just right a welded 14 bolt is bulletproof. I have tried to destroy the rearend and it just keeps sayin is that all you got
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Old 09-27-2002, 09:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Uhhh...I just posted a ? about where to find a spool -sorry -too many posts came up when I did a search on 14 bolt (1299 posts). You mentioned a mini spool for the 14 bolt...where do I find one? I don't want to weld (yet).
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Old 09-27-2002, 09:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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DriveTrain Direct has them (mini-spool).

Here

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Old 09-28-2002, 12:23 PM   #15 (permalink)
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We've welded 2 14-bolts the K-5 method and it's worked well so far. One is JoshC's Scout with 38x14.5's. He's had no problems after 3 trips to the 'Con. The other is under my daughers Scout with 16x38.5's but it hasn't left the garage yet. Full report to follow
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-sorry -too many posts came up when I did a search on 14 bolt (1299 posts).
Umm, how about a search for "14 bolt spool"? Ya know, the more words you use, the less results you get.

So, the other day, I was thinking about welding the teeth AND the spiders to their pinions. It would be a little trickier than just one or the other as far as setup, but.....
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Old 09-28-2002, 03:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks reddwarf...I was wondering who would be the first to nail me on [email protected]
Did a search on that too...but thanks -I got the info I needed.
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