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Old 04-23-2010, 07:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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TH400 extra capacity pans

Toasted my tranny and in the process of pulling it noticed my super badass stock pan has no drain plug. Awesome. After spilling fluid all over my shop and myself I figured since I got to rebuild the bitch anyways I might as well get a decent pan with a drain plug. I also have plenty of room between the trans and the belly to fit a deeper pan. Anything in particular you guys recommend or just pick one of the 23 pans off Summit and rock out with my cock out?
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The summit aluminum pans are nice and will take a lot bigger hit than the tin pans. I bought one for a C6, and they fit well and are pretty thick.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SME-1001

I have this one, great pan, very thick alum. never had any issues with the pan.
Suggestion, put your own hardware in, the bolt heads are soft and twist off too easy.
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I've brazed a nut on in one of the corners and made my own drain plug pan.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Mines a 700r4/4l60e though

Good idea but i'm wandering ??

It adds 3 quarts capacity, so as long as its on the stick theres always 3 more quarts than "empty" but,,

Does the fluid level need to still be correct on the dipstick to keep the valve body summersed in fluid for any reason, like cooling or anything??
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Old 04-23-2010, 12:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i have the b&m deep aluminum pan. i had a summit stamped pan but that thing didn't seal from day 1. the b&m alum pan is great. fluid level needs to be correct on the dipstick. dipstick isn't moving, pan is just getting deeper so it takes more fluid to read correct on the dipstick.
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I use B&M aluminum ones, they have a thick flange. I bought an Art Carr and it had a thin flange.
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I'd say the drain is silly- an oem pan is fine- you have to pull the pan to swap the filter or screen ( in my opinion is better) -changing the oil and not the screen is silly- Jess
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I find it easier to drain the oil before changing the filter, it makes less of a mess.
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as many times as I had to drop my pan because of leaking gaskets or such, the drain plug was nice...I hated not having it. my summit pan works good, has a nice thick flange and sealed up nice with a CORK gasket....damn rubber one wouldnt seal worth a shit since the exhaust drops down by the pan and would get it warm (even with the header wrap on it) only thing I didnt like about my pan was the B&M pro stick cable mount had to be modified to fit.

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I guess I got used to hitting the drain pan- Jess
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this is what i wanna run http://bluetorchfab.com/store/produc...roducts_id=298 no need for a skid then lol

we just designed and getting ready to build a bullet deep pan for the th400 for my junk. i hate the thin stamped steel one's for crawling cuz they can get crushed and the cast aluminum just shatter when hit. i have hear from guys that they have broken the cases of the th400 and the cast pan help strengthen the case so the billet should be kick ass lol
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I'd say the drain is silly- an oem pan is fine- you have to pull the pan to swap the filter or screen ( in my opinion is better) -changing the oil and not the screen is silly- Jess
You're silly if you think the only reason I would drain my fluid is to swap the filter/screen

Thanks for the replies. I don't really care if the pan can take a hit or not, I've got a fully welded belly, just want a good deep pan with a drain.
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Old 04-23-2010, 05:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Summit, Jegs, and some auto parts stores carry this drain plug kit.

http://www.bmracing.com/PRODUCTS/Tra...Drain-Plug-Kit
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Old 05-10-2010, 09:38 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Can someone with one of the deep pans give me the approx depth of the pan? Thanks
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
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ANdrew, I will measure one I have sitting on the shelf for you when I get home. It is a TCI cast deep aluminum pan with the 3/8 flange.. Did you buy a pan yet? If not I would glad sell the one I have sitting on the shelf for a small price (much much less than new). I went back to a steel pan...Brian
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Brian, no haven't picked up a pan yet. I'd be happy to take it off your hands. Let me know on that measurement. Thanks
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I have a b&m aluminum pan for my 700r4 but the drain plug is in a really inconvenient spot for my setup. When the plug gets pulled, i get a atf shower as the fluid hits the cross member like a cow pissing on a flat rock.

Instead of the ATF shower, I'm going to try to pump the fluid out through the dip stick tube. Anybody tried this?
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Andrew,
Ok the TCI cast aluminum pan I have with the 3/8 flange is 3 1/2 from top of flange to the bottom of the cooling fins... Also, I have a deep B and M "steel" pan which is 2 3/4 from top to bottom...I will send you a PM on the TCI cast aluminum pan...
it is just like this one http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TCI-228000/

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Instead of the ATF shower, I'm going to try to pump the fluid out through the dip stick tube. Anybody tried this?
I bought and tried one of those POS dipstick pumps to suck the oil out of my old mid engine Tiga I used to own... joke to say the least. Might be better more expensive pumps out there but the one I had was crap.

Might suggest making a cardboard deflector / funnel next time you drain it to try and control and redirect the ATF shower fluid.

I bought a JEGS made in USA cast deep pan but have not used it as of yet.
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I'm running a Cummins TH400 pan off a bread truck. Freaking SOLID.
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Thanks for the measurements guys. Brian, that TCI pan is perfect. I'll PM you back.
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I can't get my stock pan to seal any longer (I assume it is the pan that is weaping as the gasket is wet).

It is the thin stock steel pan that has been smashed and re-used for years. The bolt hole area has been softened from peening it flat etc. I have tried to use cork, rubber, right-stuff...and leak it does.

I am thinking of going with one of the TCI/B&M/Summit cast Aluminum pans with the 3/8" flange. I would need to have my exhaust re-routed because of the deeper body, but hope that the thing won't leak.

I have also found these steel pans:



Derale Cooling Products

I like this pan because it provides both a drain and a port for my tranny cooler temp sender.

TCI thick flange alum or Derale steel?
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