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Old 12-03-2011, 12:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Would you buy a new UAZ-452?

Still being made in Russia after more than four decades. Very Jeep FC-ish...





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I don't believe in buying new vehicles, so no.
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I don't believe in buying new vehicles, so no.
But this is a new vehicle with the durability of a 50 year old soviet-built truck. And when it breaks, you'll be able to fix it with a hammer....
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in soviet russia hammer fixes you

price and import fee b/s would probably suck balls.
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But this is a new vehicle with the durability of a 50 year old soviet-built truck. And when it breaks, you'll be able to fix it with a hammer....
What's the depreciation curve for them? Most vehicles it's ideal to buy them when they're about 3yrs old. Some a little older than that. I just won't buy anything that's new because I'd hate to see my 'investment' lose $15k a year.

So, find me one that is three years old, and has been driven gently and looked after, and yeah, I might be interested
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Russians is a pretty cool guy. He mounts fuel tanks right the fuck out in the open and doesn't afraid of anything
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Russians build crap. Seriously. They make the Chinese look like Swiss watchmakers.

Unhappy underpaid workers with bad equipment.
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Russians build crap. Seriously. They make the Chinese look like Swiss watchmakers.

Unhappy underpaid workers with bad equipment.
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*ahem*

Take a Russian one apart and look at the quality of pieces. There is a reason they used to sell for $125 in the US when an AR-15 was $350.
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VS swiss watch making quality chinese guns
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Russians build crap. Seriously. They make the Chinese look like Swiss watchmakers.

Unhappy underpaid workers with bad equipment.

They build some of the toughest large tolerance equipment I've ever seen. At least, their aircraft are.

Only aircraft I've ever worked on that the maintenance manual actually calls for using a striking wrench and a 10lb sledge to set the torque on something
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Take a Russian one apart and look at the quality of pieces. There is a reason they used to sell for $125 in the US when an AR-15 was $350.
We imported Soviet built AKs during the cold war? Since when?

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Take a Russian one apart and look at the quality of pieces. There is a reason they used to sell for $125 in the US when an AR-15 was $350.
I know you're just a troll, but I'm going to answer that anyway. I have taken them apart, thank you. Warsaw Pact Kalashnikovs are superior to ChiCom Kalashnikovs. They may not be pretty, but they are rugged as shit, unlike the AR. Accuracy, on the other hand...
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I know you're just a troll, but I'm going to answer that anyway. I have taken them apart, thank you. Warsaw Pact Kalashnikovs are superior to ChiCom Kalashnikovs.
I've taken them apart too, and I disagree.

Romanians are ugly, the Bulgarian, East Kraut, and Polish guns are fantastic, the Russians are sort of in between. The Chinese ones are pretty on par with the Russians.

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Old 12-03-2011, 01:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It looks like an old VW van, but I assume its 4wd?

Kinda cool.
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I've taken them apart too, and I disagree.

Romanians are ugly, the Bulgarian, East Kraut, and Polish guns are fantastic, the Russians are sort of in between. The Chinese ones are pretty on par with the Russians.
Then, I stand corrected. I've looked at lots of chinese ones, but only 1 "russian" one.
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
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But this is a new vehicle with the durability of a 50 year old soviet-built truck. And when it breaks, you'll be able to fix it with a hammer....
So with that kind of durability, what's the point in buying a new one?
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I've driven brand new 469s. They were cool (the diesel ones were, anyway), but they felt shittily built even brand new.

I'd take a cheap used one though.
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:36 PM   #19 (permalink)
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For some reason I've always liked these vans.

specs on the 2011 cargo van;
Wheel arrangement 4 х 4

Seating accommodation 2

Length,mm 4440 [174.8"]

Width, mm 2100 [82.7"]

Height, mm 2101

Wheel base, mm 2300 [90.5"]

Road clearance, mm 220 [8.6"]

Fording depth, mm 500 [19.7"]

Curb weight, kg 1805 [3979lb]

Gross weight, kg 2730 [6018lb]

Load capacity, kg 925 [2039lb]

Engine Petrol, ZMZ - 4091

Fuel Petrol A-92

Volume, l 2,7

Maximum output, hp (kW) 112 (82,5) at 4000 rpm

Maximum torque, Nm (kgf/m) 208 at 3000 rpm

Maximum speed, km/h 127 [79mph]

Fuel consumption at 90 km/h, l/100 km 13,5 [~20mpg]

Fuel tank capacity, l 77 [20gal]

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Transfer case 2-stage

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I'd buy a used on.. Vans are comin back people.
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They build some of the toughest large tolerance equipment I've ever seen. At least, their aircraft are.

Only aircraft I've ever worked on that the maintenance manual actually calls for using a striking wrench and a 10lb sledge to set the torque on something
Okay, I gotta know which one that is.

As for the Fc thing, I'd four wheel the hell out of it. Probably wouldn't DD one though.
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I would have to look at parts availability. Looks pretty damn cool. Vans are coming back, I hear they're perfect for handing out free candy
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I'd buy a used on.. Vans are comin back people.
I have heard that for 20 years. No, they really are not coming back, ever
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Pinzgauer that actually has quality and parts availability or a UAZ.......Yeah thats a hard one.
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I would have to look at parts availability. Looks pretty damn cool. Vans are coming back, I hear they're perfect for handing out free candy
One of the selling points of these things is that they are basic, straight forward and easily repaired by the farmer or worker out in the field with basic tools.

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