Originally Posted by ky scrambled
Can you stop? I mean not drink tonight? How long can you go without it? Whens the last time you went a day without a drink? A week? A month?
I believe I could. Last week, Tuesday. Usually try to take at least 1 or 2 days off if I can but that doesn't always work that way.
Originally Posted by H8DWINGS
"I show up to work. When I drink I don't do anything else. I pay my bills. It's because nothing else is going on" are EXACTLY where I was at. Literally. It's a functional alcoholic. You can go a few days without. good. Make it a month. See how different you feel after not drinking 8 PBRs for a week. Plus you'll have a lot more money to buy food to cook.
EDIT: How responsible is it to show up to work at less than 100%? Was this part of your hiring agreement?
How responsible is it to miss weekend commitments, even if it was to party, because you drank too much the night before? Working on the rig, etc.? How would you feel if you had a friend call and say they can't come because they're hungover? How much fun is it to "power through" stuff (it's not) because you made yourself show up?
I'll go back and re-read your posts. I should try a trial run of sorts and take a month off some time this winter, see what difference it makes. I'm pretty strong and usually make it through festivities just fine. Maybe a couple times a year do I need to call something off, most notably around a birthday weekend, New Years, etc but that's because those days off are so full of commitments anyway.
I would say that I show up to work feeling as good as anyone else, if not better. I walk my dog 2 miles every morning, get up well before work, etc. I would argue that my personal life has no adverse effects on my performance at work, and I would also agree that if it begins to that there is a HUGE issue there.
I take a great sense of pride in my work, and work ethic. I grew up working in hard manual labor, and paid my way through school while working 50-90 hour weeks. Your work is a reflection on your personal self, and therefor should be treated as such.
Read below for more examples, but I get shit done. I don't just go home and pass out on the couch next to a case. I don't have cable or internet for crying out loud. I spend more time in my garage than I do my house. I never said my life is work, beer, repeat. I still live plenty despite the consumption.
Originally Posted by H8DWINGS
You're getting told what people's definition is. Some of those people aren't on this board. People in your life have decided you're an alcoholic without telling you through an anonymous message board.
No. You're talking to people who were your age 5+ years ago. They sobered up because their life kept going with the "I don't get sick. I can accomplish plenty. Yeah I show up sore and miss some things though" life.
Is running 14 miles a day a problem or something you'd want to do? I did it Monday. Some might say I have no life. Some might say I have a problem. I might say it's a better way to spend my time drinking beer with my neighbors, or whatever it is you do while you pound 8 beers on a Tuesday.
Am I saying you need to quit? no. I just might say you could ask someone you don't drink with on a regular basis what they'd consider "too much/a lot" for a casual night and what they might consider "acceptable if you have a ride" for a party/bbq/family get together.
See above response for reference to work and professional life.
The only people in my life that have mentioned alcoholism is you, maybe another user on here, and me when I brought this up. I'm not the neighborhood drunk that passes out in bushes and ruins his life. Sure I'm known as a drinker to certain folks, but you seem to be the one set on the label, not anyone else.
As far as running goes, I've ran 60+ miles a week for over 5 years of my life. All state in quarter mile and half mile all 3 years I ran track in high school, and ran year round at different track meets, etc. Just because you run doesn't mean you have to put the beers down
Again, I'm not known as the guy always inebriated, I don't slurr my words and stumble around the campfire, I remember the nights activities the next morning, etc etc. I don't get blackout or uncapable of controlling myself except for a few rare occasions, if anything I'm usually the one babysitting
some people just can't handle themselves after they get some drinks in them, I am not one of those people.
I still make it out into the garage, and fix my shit. I maintain my home that I also pay for, and find time to manage everything. I'm young and a college graduate, so anything I buy is a project, because I can't afford to buy it new. Fine and dandy but projects require a lot more work and maintenance than something off the show room floor.
I'm not sure I agree with asking someone else, because for someone that has never drank before a 6 pack will seem like a lot. If I drink a beer an hour for 6 hours I wouldn't feel a thing. That's not a fair comparison.
All this being said I do appreciate everyone taking the time to read my posts and respond. I was hoping to generate some honest conversation and learn a bit myself. I've learned a lot just reading through this thread and after spending a few evenings looking it over I felt like I needed to get involved in some capacity.