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Old 02-13-2016, 06:11 PM   #951 (permalink)
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Every plug to the engine, yes. The chassis, no.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:13 PM   #952 (permalink)
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A lot of our ambulances baked the wiring harness and had random electrical issues. I would say probably a third or more of our trucks ended up with a partial or full replacement harness at some point in time. Lots of idle time and lots of hard running brings issues. But the vans have a much tighter engine bay.
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Great idea. Make a fake Pirate account for your wife. Make it look like she's so into you, that she will follow you down the rabbit hole of 6.0 ownership. I am no CG hater, but anyone that believes a high-dollar vehicle project will somehow magically become something other than just that, is fooling themselves. Add the whole 6.0 aspect, and it becomes sickening. The money and time that has been pissed into this thing could have been spent on a nice DD for the spouse, and a decent work truck for the Man of the house.
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Have you verified fuel flow to the heads?
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:42 PM   #955 (permalink)
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The basic harness is original, I put new glow plug harnesses on it.

Yes, it has over 1/2 tank of new, clean fuel in it. I quadruple checked all the grounds, cleaned the hell out of them, and even added a couple extra. (I've been bitten in the ass by a bad ground before. Living in the rust belt for awhile taught me the grounding lesson.)
Have you checked pin to pin continuity of the various harness runs, including flexing the harness while doing so?

Something might have been pinched or perhaps it's just some place inside where you are getting an open or a line to line fault.

Separately I am not a 6.0 guru) can you confirm fuel pressure at the rail when the motor refuses to run?
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A lot of our ambulances baked the wiring harness and had random electrical issues. I would say probably a third or more of our trucks ended up with a partial or full replacement harness at some point in time. Lots of idle time and lots of hard running brings issues. But the vans have a much tighter engine bay.
did you see what the oil changes are supposed to be for trucks that idle a lot? since there is a tsb, it makes it ok....

does anybody make a kit that gives the injectors a stand alone oil system? I really do not think sharing with the crank case should have ever been ok.

I have one i just took out of service, not very many hours, i think i posted them here earlier, and 159k, a 2008 medtech.....engine 2k after "bullet proofing (you know fixing it and making the wife think it was for the better)"

Even the 2003 6.0's made it longer. I think i have an 06 coming in running/leaking oil condition. maybe i will keep camarogenious in mind while the chassis is sitting in the back lot after it's remount onto a 2016 chassis with a v10. that v 10 wants to light up the tires wit 14k pounds to haul.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:44 PM   #957 (permalink)
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Sounds a lot like your timing is off. Did you put a scope on the CMP sensors and CKP sensors to verify sync at the sensor level (not what the PCM sees) and compare that to a known good set of waveforms? Disabling the glow plugs and hitting it with ether should get it to start. If your HPOP is at spec via the ICP sensor then your high pressure oil should be there to actuate the injectors. Buzz test of the injectors is ok right?
It's got to be timing.

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Old 02-13-2016, 06:49 PM   #959 (permalink)
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I have two fuel pressure gauges. One mechanical, under the hood, and one electric in the cab. Both are downstream of the engine, (There is no crossover, so fuel is definitely going through the fuel rails.)
The harness is a very real possibility.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:25 PM   #960 (permalink)
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did you see what the oil changes are supposed to be for trucks that idle a lot? since there is a tsb, it makes it ok..
We changed it 2500-3000 miles. That's a lot of oil!
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I run full synthetic, and change every 5,000.
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We changed it 2500-3000 miles. That's a lot of oil!
Lifted ford's are easier. Slide a keg bucket underneath.
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Lifted ford's are easier. Slide a keg bucket underneath.
4 gallon pickle bucket slides under the ttb front
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A lot of our ambulances baked the wiring harness and had random electrical issues. I would say probably a third or more of our trucks ended up with a partial or full replacement harness at some point in time. Lots of idle time and lots of hard running brings issues. But the vans have a much tighter engine bay.






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We changed it 2500-3000 miles. That's a lot of oil!
Same on both accounts for my company
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Disable your glow plugs if that'll make you feel better and see if it will run on ether. This is similar concept as to add some fuel in the tank to ensure there's fuel in the tank. If it's a no go then chances are no/insufficient compression.
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Has cummins swap ever been mentioned in this thread?

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Old 02-13-2016, 09:33 PM   #967 (permalink)
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I run full synthetic, and change every 5,000.
Well, on the upside, you haven't spent a lot on oil.
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Make sure your connectors are fully seated on you ficm. They can be a bitch at times. Also make sure you put the ground wire back on the back stud on the drivers side intake.

I didn't go back and read through that much so I could be just blurting out things.
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Great idea. Make a fake Pirate account for your wife. Make it look like she's so into you, that she will follow you down the rabbit hole of 6.0 ownership. I am no CG hater, but anyone that believes a high-dollar vehicle project will somehow magically become something other than just that, is fooling themselves. Add the whole 6.0 aspect, and it becomes sickening. The money and time that has been pissed into this thing could have been spent on a nice DD for the spouse, and a decent work truck for the Man of the house.
That is his wife, CG is a pretty lucky guy

for a nan-hater, you sound a lot like a hater
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That is his wife, CG is a pretty lucky guy

for a nan-hater, you sound a lot like a hater
I deal with people like CG all the time. Nice people, well intentioned people, who should never pick up a wrench. They ignore the advice of people who would have saved them time/money/aggravation. It takes a special disease to navigate the set of problems that professional vehicle repair/modification/maintenance brings.
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$14k would've paid for a Cummins swap and had an extra $7k left over
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I deal with people like CG all the time. Nice people, well intentioned people, who should never pick up a wrench. They ignore the advice of people who would have saved them time/money/aggravation. It takes a special disease to navigate the set of problems that professional vehicle repair/modification/maintenance brings.
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Has cummins swap ever been mentioned in this thread?

He could have cranked a 12V on the ground with a screwdriver and a battery.

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$14k would've paid for a Cummins swap and had an extra $7k left over
Maybe if he used a shitass 12v, but I doubt it. There was a thread in the tow rig forum where a guy swapped in a common rail into an 08 F250 for a customer and the end price was 14k iirc.

And in the end, his setup will make more power.
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