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Old 04-29-2015, 06:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Economics of Civil Unrest

Pretty good article in the Atlantic discussing the economic issues that lead to civil unrest, using Ferguson s an example. To long to post, so here's the link, followed by a few salient snippets:


The Economics of Ferguson: Emerson Electric, Municipal Fines, Discriminatory Policing - The Atlantic

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To get a sense of what life is like in St. Louis County’s primarily black neighborhoods, one need only look at the extraordinary climate of police harassment that culminated in the death of Michael Brown. Thanks to detailed research and reporting, much of it since the shooting, we now know that over the past two years, 85 percent of traffic stops there involved black motorists, even though the city is only 67 percent black, and that its roads are traveled by a large number of white commuters. After being stopped, black residents were twice as likely to be searched and twice as likely to be arrested as white residents—despite the fact that, in the event of a search, whites proved to be two-thirds more likely to be caught with some sort of contraband. Municipal violations for having an unmowed lawn, or putting out the trash in the wrong place at the wrong time, were issued overwhelmingly to black residents. Ninety-five percent of the citations for the “manner of walking in the roadway” and “failure to comply” were issued to African Americans.
Remember that walking in the roadway. Its why Michael Brown was stopped.

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“Ferguson’s law enforcement practices are shaped by the City’s focus on revenue rather than by public safety needs,” the Justice Department concluded in a March 2015 report on Ferguson’s police department. The report found that the boundary between the fiscal and police functions of the city government of Ferguson had completely broken down. The city manager and the police chief had discussed using tickets to meet revenue benchmarks, and police officers were being evaluated on the basis of their ticket-pushing “productivity.”

In 2013, the city of Ferguson not only had more outstanding arrest warrants per citizen than any other city in Missouri, according to The New York Times. It also harvested $2,635,400 in municipal court fines, which accounted for 20 percent of the city budget. By way of comparison, the nearby middle-class, majority-white community of Kirkwood draws about 10 percent of its revenue from fines; prosperous Ladue, 5 percent.
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To get from the neighborhood where Michael Brown died to downtown Ferguson, one has to travel a long, undeveloped stretch of Ferguson Avenue and then make a near 180-degree turn under a railroad bridge to merge onto another street that leads to the downtown. There are no sidewalks bordering this stretch of road, and many of those who travel it do so by walking on the shoulder —a notable issue given the risk of being cited for “manner of walking in the roadway” faced by black pedestrians in Ferguson. The “two Fergusons” mentioned by many commentators are effectively connected by a back door.
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Remember that walking in the roadway. Its why Michael Brown was stopped.
he wasnt stopped. He was told to not walk in the roadway and walk on the sidewalk. which that street had.

What other red herrings you got?
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Ninety-five percent of the citations for the “manner of walking in the roadway” and “failure to comply” were issued to African Americans.
This is my beef with the articles and reporting surrounding these 'race related incidents': why is everyone afraid to say that African Americans commit crime at a proportionally higher rate when compared to other races? The data shows it.
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This is my beef with the articles and reporting surrounding these 'race related incidents': why is everyone afraid to say that African Americans commit crime at a proportionally higher rate when compared to other races? The data shows it.
Cause that's raciest and everyone is a giant bleeding pussy.
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The economics of it? You mean they use a death as an opportunity to loot and steal the shit they can't afford with the tax dollars they are already given.
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This is my beef with the articles and reporting surrounding these 'race related incidents': why is everyone afraid to say that African Americans commit crime at a proportionally higher rate when compared to other races? The data shows it.
Bingo! Never seen a single article say that, but they all post the same statistics.

Apparently every single person commits the same amount of crime, but blacks are just harassed and punished for it more. That's what they want you to believe. Alllllll those white people are commiting all sorts of crimes and just never get caught because the police are racist.




And apparently it's a thing for black people to walk in the street instead of on the sidewalk. I live in DC and see it all the time. Black people cross the street wherever the hell they want whether there is traffic coming or not. Screw crosswalks and people in cars actually driving. They act like they own the place and fuck you if you say something to them.
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Screwzer, please explain this, since the problem is obviously a racial issue:

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The population of Baltimore is 622,000 and 63 percent of its population is black. The mayor, state’s attorney, police chief and city council president are black, as is 48 percent of the police force. But as 36-year-old Robert Stokes says, “You look around and see unemployment. Filling out job applications and being turned down because of where you live and your demographic. It’s so much bigger than the police department.”

Everyone wants to have an honest conversation about race, so let’s us endeavor to do just that. Now, of course, when you speak the hard truth about race issues in America – and not just the liberal progressive talking points – and you’re white, you’ll be branded a racist. And if you’re black, well, y’all just watch the comments below and see the denigrating drivel.

As posted on Breitbart.com by John Nolte, “Contrary to the emotional blackmail some leftists are attempting to peddle, Baltimore is not America’s problem or shame. That failed city is solely and completely a Democrat problem.”

“Like many failed cities, Detroit comes to mind, and every city besieged recently by rioting, Democrats and their union pals have had carte blanche to inflict their ideas and policies on Baltimore since 1967, the last time there was a Republican Mayor. In 2012, after four years of his own failed policies, President Obama won a whopping 87.4% of the Baltimore city vote. Democrats run the city of Baltimore, the unions, the schools, and, yes, the police force. Since 1969, there have only been only been two Republican governors of the State of Maryland. Elijah Cummings has represented Baltimore in the U.S. Congress for more than thirty years.”

“As I write this, despite his objectively disastrous reign, the Democrat-infested mainstream media is treating the Democrat like a local folk hero, not the obvious and glaring failure he really is. Every single member of the Baltimore city council is a Democrat. Liberalism and all the toxic government dependence and cronyism and union corruption and failed schools that comes along with it, has run amok in Baltimore for a half-century, and that is Baltimore’s problem. It is the free people of Baltimore who elect and then re-elect those who institute policies that have so spectacularly failed that once-great city. It is the free people of Baltimore who elected Mayor “Space-to-Destroy”.

Mr. Nolte is white and we all know the invectives which will be hurled his way — but he is absolutely correct.

I was watching the news reports from Baltimore and hearing all the condemnations from some about being kept down and the lack of jobs, opportunity, good schools — then why do these blacks keep voting for the same people? And this isn’t a phenomenon isolated to Baltimore.

Every single major urban center in America is run by Democrats — more specifically, liberal progressives, black or white. The morass that became Detroit. The killing fields of Chicago. The depravity of Washington DC. The shame of South Dallas. And yes, even the place that was once my home, Atlanta — even with all the successful black entertainers.

Now, I remember the first black mayor of Atlanta, Maynard Jackson. That guy was a leader and even spoke at my high school Baccalaureate. But today, Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed has done such a bang-up job that the Atlanta Braves are moving to Cobb County!

Just do the assessment yourselves, who are the elected officials heading up the urban centers? And where does one find the most dire socio-economic statistics?

Yet we hear these rioters blame whites — well, they need to make sure they’re specifically blaming the correct whites — those on the left. Blacks have been herded into these inner city clusters, a new economic plantation and in this 50th year of President Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society — well, the unintended, or maybe intended, consequences are deplorable.

But Mr. Nolte does bring up an interesting comparative analysis. He writes:

“Poverty has nothing to do with it. This madness and chaos and anarchy is a Democrat-driven culture that starts at the top with a racially-divisive White House heartbreakingly effective at ginning up hate and violence. Where I currently reside here in Watauga County, North Carolina, the poverty level is 31.3%. Median income is only $34,293. In both of those areas we are much worse off than Baltimore, that has a poverty rate of only 23.8% and a median income of $41,385. Despite all that, we don’t riot here in Watauga County. Thankfully, we have not been poisoned by the same left-wing culture that is rotting Baltimore, and so many other cities like it, from the inside out. We get along remarkably well. We are neighbors. We are people who help out one another. We take pride in our community, and are grateful for what we do have. We are far from perfect, but we work out our many differences in civilized ways. Solutions are our goal, not cronyism, narcissistic victimhood, and the blaming of others.”

The truth is that it is a culture of dependency as promulgated by the race baiters and new plantation overseers of the inner city that has created what we’re seeing play out in Baltimore. There is where the blame lies, but there are very few who are willing to admit just that.

Remember what ESPN sports commentator Stephen A. Smith said? He wished that for one voting cycle, the black community would vote Republican. Heck, they could do no worse — and look, even the people of the state of Maryland decided to try something different and elected a Republican governor. Who, when finally asked, immediately activated the National Guard to quell the violence and chaos which the Democrat Mayor of Baltimore failed to comprehend, and control. Perhaps what we’re witnessing in Baltimore is the pure definition of insanity — continuing to do the same thing and expect different results.

Yes, the dirty little secret that no one wants to admit is that Baltimore, and so many other urban areas and inner city communities in America are a reflection of the abject failure of liberal progressive socialist policies as advanced by the Democrat party.

The preeminent question is whether or not those in Baltimore and other places will recognize who is truly responsible for their plight. Or will they continue to be manipulated and propagandized by the liberal progressive media and the poverty pimps like the one supposedly heading down from New York City.

John Nolte’s piece was spot on and this is not about an American failure, it is about a Democrat failure. And ask yourself, who were the ones who developed the concept of urban economic empowerment zones — as opposed to the ones who have produced urban depraved enslavement zones?
The dirty little secret no one wants to admit about Baltimore - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ricas-problem/
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This is my beef with the articles and reporting surrounding these 'race related incidents': why is everyone afraid to say that African Americans commit crime at a proportionally higher rate when compared to other races? The data shows it.
Go read the article, I merely cherry-picked a minor salient point.

In essence, the police and the mayor collaborated on new municipal laws specifically to raise revenue. Basically, bullshit laws to extract a disproportionate amount of revenue from a poor population.

This is an issue going on all over the country as anyone who's gotten a traffic ticket knows. Even with a fixit ticket, there's often a $60-150 administration fee or some other bullshit.
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Screwzer, please explain this, since the problem is obviously a racial issue:
I don't think its really a racial issue. I think its a class issue primarily, with a "frosting"of racism on top. The fact that blacks make up a disproportionate share of the population has as much to do with history as anything else, which is why we see it characterized primarily as a racial issue.
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I don't think its really a racial issue. I think its a class issue primarily, with a "frosting"of racism on top. The fact that blacks make up a disproportionate share of the population has as much to do with history as anything else, which is why we see it characterized primarily as a racial issue.
Its a fucking lazy ass issue! Anyone that has a desire and a willingness to get off their ass can succeed.

The problem is, too many people want to simply lay around on their ass and have shit giving to them.

Fuck them, and fuck you too for buying into "the poor" bullshit.
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There were no sidewalks in the town that I grew up in. There were also no opportunities, so I found one. Never did I think going apeshit was the solution to the problem. I just realized sometimes life is a bitch and it is a little harder to get what you need or want. Fuck them.
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This is my beef with the articles and reporting surrounding these 'race related incidents': why is everyone afraid to say that African Americans commit crime at a proportionally higher rate when compared to other races? The data shows it.
They do say that. But when they do, they say it's because they're relegated to a live pof poverty that is the result of class warfare perpetrated by privileged white rich people.
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Screwzer, you seems like you're doing alright for yourself. You are an entrepreneur and from what I can gather on this website, you do good work and are continually searching for new projects.

With that said, were any of your family members (parents, grandparents, etc) poor? Why are you supporting yourself now? Because someone along the way showed you what work ethic was (or wasn't) and you took it to heart.

My mom was raised DIRT poor. Her father was a janitor for the Budweiser plant in Newark, NJ for 40 years. 3 kids raised in a shitty two bedroom apartment in north Jersey, you get the picture. But I turned out alright. Because instead of blaming the system, my mother worked her way through college/nursing school and never gave me a hand out I didn't deserve growing up.

It all boils down to a victim mentality and a welfare state. Once people rid themselves from those shackles, they understand anything is possible. Read any success story of someone who got themselves out of the ghetto/barrio/poverty and it all makes sense. Why do many foreigners come here from impoverished countries and see success? Because they know what work ethic is. They know what personal responsibility is.

Though you may look at him as rich conservative scum, read 'Letters to a Young Conservative' by Dinesh D'Souza. If you PM me your address, I will gladly buy you a copy just so you can look at another perspective.
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This article may just blow your mind screwy:

America still is the land of opportunities for black immigrants—but not their kids – Quartz
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ya know it gets down to:

don't break the law and you wont have to be harassed by the cops.

pretty simple really.
stay on sidewalks and use crosswalks appropriately: check
don't strong arm business owners go get free chit: check
don't shoot innocent people: check
don't join a gang: check
etc. and so on.
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They do say that. But when they do, they say it's because they're relegated to a live pof poverty that is the result of class warfare perpetrated by privileged white rich people.
To that I would have to say, you are aware there is one in the White house, Supreme court, Attorney General? They are and have been Sectary of State, Congress and Senate, State Representatives, Governors, Mayors, county and city Commissioners, Sheriff, police Chief, professors and teachers…etc.

In other words, some of the highest offices and positions in this country are or have been held by “African Americans”. So, your mother fucking point is what?
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And apparently it's a thing for black people to walk in the street instead of on the sidewalk. I live in DC and see it all the time. Black people cross the street wherever the hell they want whether there is traffic coming or not. Screw crosswalks and people in cars actually driving. They act like they own the place and fuck you if you say something to them.
Whats up with that? I live in a mixed ethnicity neighborhood, with nice sidewalks and walking paths, typical suburban yuppie shit, and the people walking in the street, besides the douche runners "cooling down", are always of a certain ethnicity and don't fucking move! They will jump out of the way of the Tacoma because its a crazed redneck mobile, but in the Camry's they stay put until you almost hit them WTF.
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Remember that walking in the roadway. Its why Michael Brown was stopped.
Last time I checked, he was stopped for walking in the road AND because he had just got done beating up a store owner and stealing from him. C'mon Screwy, you're better than this.
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Based on the title I thought the discussion was going to be closer to this Total Cost of Ferguson Riots | Hoosier Econ.
Then I saw it was our resident hippy posting.
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Bingo! Never seen a single article say that, but they all post the same statistics.

Apparently every single person commits the same amount of crime, but blacks are just harassed and punished for it more. That's what they want you to believe. Alllllll those white people are commiting all sorts of crimes and just never get caught because the police are racist.




And apparently it's a thing for black people to walk in the street instead of on the sidewalk. I live in DC and see it all the time. Black people cross the street wherever the hell they want whether there is traffic coming or not. Screw crosswalks and people in cars actually driving. They act like they own the place and fuck you if you say something to them.
Motherfucking chinatown, man. Seriously, they will walk out right in front of your moving car. Stop. Stare at you. Then as slow as possible walk to the other side of the street.
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Whats up with that? I live in a mixed ethnicity neighborhood, with nice sidewalks and walking paths, typical suburban yuppie shit, and the people walking in the street, besides the douche runners "cooling down", are always of a certain ethnicity and don't fucking move! They will jump out of the way of the Tacoma because its a crazed redneck mobile, but in the Camry's they stay put until you almost hit them WTF.
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Motherfucking chinatown, man. Seriously, they will walk out right in front of your moving car. Stop. Stare at you. Then as slow as possible walk to the other side of the street.
Yep. I step on the gas and aim at them in my neighborhood. Amazing how fast they can move when they want to.
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Motherfucking chinatown, man. Seriously, they will walk out right in front of your moving car. Stop. Stare at you. Then as slow as possible walk to the other side of the street.
Maybe you should mount a huge set of bull horns to the hood of your Prius...
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Yep. I step on the gas and aim at them in my neighborhood. Amazing how fast they can move when they want to.

Might be because they're spooked that you're white *and* shorter than them.

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Maybe you should mount a huge set of bull horns to the hood of your Prius...
I wish, but its a company truck. Also, its literally gayer than a prius. Its a white colorado with SIEMENS printed all over it.
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