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Old 08-23-2015, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Say you bought house with a leased propane tank, but don't know who it is leased from

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House came with a 1/2 full 350 gallon tank. PO marked it as "leased" on the disclosure, but didn't provide any details. There are no markings on the tank to tell me who owns it.

Now it's empty and I'd really like to have hot water again...

Pretty sure nobody will fill it unless I can prove ownership. Short of calling all the propane companies around town, I have no idea how to figure out who this thing is leased from.
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Fill it to 85% now before the fall rates kick in.
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I went though a similar situation when I bought my current house. Your situation may be different, but due to small town corruption in my case I was better off buying a new tank. Although if there is no proof anybody owned it, can you go to a provider and just ask them what they'd charge fill it? Going round and round after telling them to prove they owned it, the SO helped them pick up my old tank I needed up buying a new 1000 gal tank with a receipt; Fuck Ferrelgas.
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How many propane company's do you have local to you?
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It should be serialized somewhere on the tank. You can call around with that number to find out who leased it to the po. Or you can do like my brother on his 'leased' tank. Have it filled and the lease driver will show up within a week to see if you need any and proceed to bitch at you over having it filled by someone else.
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I went though a similar situation when I bought my current house. Your situation may be different, but due to small town corruption in my case I was better off buying a new tank. Although if there is no proof anybody owned it, can you go to a provider and just ask them what they'd charge fill it? Going round and round after telling them to prove they owned it, the SO helped them pick up my old tank I needed up buying a new 1000 gal tank with a receipt; Fuck Ferrelgas.
This is what I'm afraid of. I'll call a couple places tomorrow and see if they ask for any kind of proof.


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How many propane company's do you have local to you?
At least a dozen. Probably more.

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It should be serialized somewhere on the tank. You can call around with that number to find out who leased it to the po. Or you can do like my brother on his 'leased' tank. Have it filled and the lease driver will show up within a week to see if you need any and proceed to bitch at you over having it filled by someone else.
Bought the place in October and haven't heard a word from anyone about it. I guess if I fill it through someone else and they show up and bitch, they can buy the propane back if they want their tank.


My plan all along was to buy a tank and not deal with the scam of a lease. I could either buy one from any dealer in town, but then I have to figure out what to do with this leased tank, or I could hopefully find out who owns it and see if I can buy it outright.
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What color is the tank and the lid?
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Grey/green.


But most of the companies here are still mom and pop....there's only one national chain that's I've seen so far.
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I tried to buy a hot water heater from a lease company (ya I know, this place is weird, everyone rents hot water tanks.)

The Previous Owner was supposed to have it removed, she didn't. I refused to pay the company, they refused to come pick it up. A year after I moved in, I finally called them and said I'd buy it from them.. keep in mind it was a 6 year old electric heater, 70Gal.

They said, sure, you can keep it, for $1500. I told them to eat a bag of dicks and come pick it up before 4:00 because otherwise the scrappers would undoubtedly get it.

The inflexible stupidity of rental/lease companies never ceases to amaze me. Good luck with buying it from them.
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Bummer..

Get the tank serial number and start calling. I was hoping you would say it was white with red lid ( I work for Suburban). Maybe contact the previous owners or talk to the neighbors to see if they recall who delivers.
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Easy way is to call the propane company of your choice and lease a tank. Theylll set their own tank where the current one is . Have them set the old one to the side, out of your way. If it some up missing, too fucking bad. They should of had a sticker on that shit.
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Easy way is to call the propane company of your choice and lease a tank. Theylll set their own tank where the current one is . Have them set the old one to the side, out of your way. If it some up missing, too fucking bad. They should of had a sticker on that shit.
Yep. Start lease with new company, and enjoy the new badass smoker you build out of your free propane tank.
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Call local companies and just ask what color they paint their tanks until you find the right one, don't even confuse the issue by explaining why, until you find the right company.
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Grind the numbers off, paint it your wife/girl/mom's favorite color, and go get it filled up.
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This doesn't need to be so complicated, track down or call the previous owner and just asked them?
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What does one do?


House came with a 1/2 full 350 gallon tank. PO marked it as "leased" on the disclosure, but didn't provide any details. There are no markings on the tank to tell me who owns it.

Now it's empty and I'd really like to have hot water again...

Pretty sure nobody will fill it unless I can prove ownership. Short of calling all the propane companies around town, I have no idea how to figure out who this thing is leased from.
I've never had to prove ownership on mine.
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I've never had to prove ownership on mine.
x2 if its a rental tank it will be labeled, just call someone to fill it up and tell them you own it, the truck driver will either fill it or tell you its a rental and he cant fill it.

x2 on fuck ferrel gas
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Fill it to 85% now before the fall rates kick in.
80 - 85% whatever it takes...
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The information should/may be on your purchase agreement.
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Sell it and buy a new tank from someone else.
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It should be serialized somewhere on the tank. You can call around with that number to find out who leased it to the po.
I wonder how many of the companies will say "yup, that's one of ours".
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I really don't want to spend half a day calling around to find the owner....nor should I have to.


Say I have it filled....a fill up should last me well over a year since 1/2 a tank made it over 10 months, so I should be able to fill it up at lower rates every summer. So what if I fill it today and next week xyz propane company shows up and says it's their tank. What would I have to do? Would they have to buy the propane back that's in the tank if they wanted their tank back and I didn't want to sign an agreement with them?


I guess on the good side, where the tank is located it is completely blocked by my trailers and there's no way they could get to it without seriously fucking shit up or going through my neighbor's yard.
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I wonder how many of the companies will say "yup, that's one of ours".
I've heard about this happening....call 3 or 4 places and they all say it's theirs.
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Easy way is to call the propane company of your choice and lease a tank. Theylll set their own tank where the current one is . Have them set the old one to the side, out of your way. If it some up missing, too fucking bad. They should of had a sticker on that shit.
Always buy your own tank, leasing is for lazy suckers especially if you lease it from a nationwide outfit such as Ferrelgas, Amerigas, Suburban, etc. In addition to tank rental fees you should enjoy being raped by these animals for their price of propane.

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Yep. Start lease with new company, and enjoy the new badass smoker you build out of your free propane tank.
Also enjoy your 3x the normal rate billing (and those are the "special friend, lock in NOW" rate these nationwide companies offer).

Buy your own tank and shop the best price for gas. I just topped off our 1K gallon tank with a private M&P firm of my choosing. Our savings on propane paid off the price of 1000 gallon tank in LESS than TWO years.
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