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Old 10-23-2015, 04:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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FDA effectively bans execution by states

"TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — Compounding the nation's severe shortage of execution drugs, federal authorities have confiscated shipments of a lethal-injection chemical that Arizona and Texas tried to bring in from abroad, saying such imports are illegal.

The Food and Drug Administration said Friday that it impounded orders of sodium thiopental, an anesthetic that has been used in past executions in combination with drugs that paralyze the muscles and stop the heart. It currently has no legal uses in the U.S."

Feds seize lethal-injection drugs imported by Texas, Arizona

Our federal government needs a reset, and soon
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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BFD. Fire up ol' sparky. Firing squad is an option, or here in Texas, I think we still have hanging on the books.
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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here in Texas, I think we still have hanging on the books.
do you ever get tired of being wrong?
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Lethal injection of lead or the guillotine!
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Its a bunch of bullshit,my vet can get shit that will drop a horse dead before the needle is even pulled from the vein but we cant find a drug that will kill a human effectively?
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Should bring back hung, drawn, and quartered; make it public.

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Saw the thread title and figured they had determined after millions of dollars of testing that execution may lead to death.
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Its a bunch of bullshit,my vet can get shit that will drop a horse dead before the needle is even pulled from the vein but we cant find a drug that will kill a human effectively?
It keeps failing in the human tests, the bums keep dying!
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Old 10-23-2015, 05:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Ship them all to Utah.
Utah has the firing squad. Lead isn't band yet!
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Old 10-23-2015, 05:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Fill their jail cells with saline solution, then
insert a giant hook to pull their arms and legs off.
If that doesn't kill them put them on a bed in a dark quiet room until they die 'naturally'.

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Utah has the firing squad. Lead isn't band yet!
^ I was just about to post this.
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Use up the confiscated narcotics.
A half lb of heroin should do the trick.
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Could they be executed by giving them Michelle Obama-approved school lunches? If it doesn't kill them, they'll be wishing it did
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"TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — Compounding the nation's severe shortage of execution drugs, federal authorities have confiscated shipments of a lethal-injection chemical that Arizona and Texas tried to bring in from abroad, saying such imports are illegal.

The Food and Drug Administration said Friday that it impounded orders of sodium thiopental, an anesthetic that has been used in past executions in combination with drugs that paralyze the muscles and stop the heart. It currently has no legal uses in the U.S."

Feds seize lethal-injection drugs imported by Texas, Arizona

Our federal government needs a reset, and soon
The FDA was just following legal court orders, or do you advocate a government agency breaking the law ?
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"TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — Compounding the nation's severe shortage of execution drugs, federal authorities have confiscated shipments of a lethal-injection chemical that Arizona and Texas tried to bring in from abroad, saying such imports are illegal.

The Food and Drug Administration said Friday that it impounded orders of sodium thiopental, an anesthetic that has been used in past executions in combination with drugs that paralyze the muscles and stop the heart. It currently has no legal uses in the U.S."

Feds seize lethal-injection drugs imported by Texas, Arizona

Our federal government needs a reset, and soon
Stupid stupid stupid

Long live the firing squad.
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The FDA was just following legal court orders, or do you advocate a government agency breaking the law ?
You follow every law?
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Tall trees and short ropes are gonna be pretty hard to regulate out of existence.
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The FDA was just following legal court orders, or do you advocate a government agency breaking the law ?
First of all, you are wrong as usual , the FDA's job is Protecting the public health. Second of all, the FDA has no legal justification to in the way of a lawful execution. The governor of AZ should have had the FDA agents arrested.
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The labels were missing the "may cause cancer in the state of California" so shipment had to be seized
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Do the condemned on death row get to use the three shells?
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First of all, you are wrong as usual , the FDA's job is Protecting the public health. Second of all, the FDA has no legal justification to in the way of a lawful execution. The governor of AZ should have had the FDA agents arrested.
You obviously didn't read the article.

[b]The Food and Drug Administration said Friday that it impounded orders of sodium thiopental, an anesthetic that has been used in past executions in combination with drugs that paralyze the muscles and stop the heart. The anesthetic currently has no legal uses in the U.S.

"Courts have concluded that sodium thiopental for the injection in humans is an unapproved drug and may not be imported into the country," FDA spokesman Jeff Ventura said in a statement.


So take your assertion that I'm wrong and stuff it up your ass.


And read this .........................................

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/importrefusals/

Import Refusal Report



U.S. Food and Drug Administration Import Refusal Reports for OASIS



INTRODUCTION TO FDA'S IMPORT REFUSAL REPORT (IRR)



The Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) authorizes FDA to detain a regulated product that appears to be out of compliance with the Act. The FDA district office will then issue a "Notice of FDA Action" specifying the nature of the violation to the owner or consignee. The owner or consignee is entitled to an informal hearing in order to provide testimony regarding the admissibility of the product. If the owner fails to submit evidence that the product is in compliance or fails to submit a plan to bring the product into compliance, FDA will issue another "Notice of FDA Action" refusing admission to the product. The product then has to be exported or destroyed within 90 days.


It's you that's wrong, as usual.
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Do the condemned on death row get to use the three shells?
Remember when I said I'd kill you last? I lied.
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