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Old 01-19-2020, 01:28 PM   #901 (permalink)
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If you can't see sense, then you deserve whatever you get and I'm quite certain it will be much worse than losing some little piece of shit plastic gun hackery.
I guess I'm stupid. I don't understand your answer. Maybe my question needs to be re-worded.

How does voting for an anti-gun Republican (Trump) help/affect the unconstitutional bullshit we're currently seeing in the Virginia Senate?
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Libertarians would be a lot easier to take seriously if they quit trying to put up Mitt Romney lite up as their candidate. Trump has furthered the Libertarian causes more than they could of ever hoped with their pathetic candidate and they still hate him. The only chance real libertarians have of getting their agenda done is through the Republican party. Vote with your heart in the primary, vote with your mind in the general. A step towards your cause is better than 3 steps back by wasting your vote and letting the enemy run the show.
What libertarian cause has trump furthered?
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Old 01-19-2020, 01:32 PM   #903 (permalink)
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I guess I'm stupid. I don't understand your answer. Maybe my question needs to be re-worded.

How does voting for an anti-gun Republican (Trump) help/affect the unconstitutional bullshit we're currently seeing in the Virginia Senate?
Considering Trump knows his voterbase will abandon him in 2 seconds if he supports nonsense like Northam, I would guess that he would be against such things. And no, I do not consider the bump stock thing to be severe enough to label Trump an "anti 2nd" President. Are we clear now, or do I need to break out the Crayolas?
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Considering Trump knows his voterbase will abandon him in 2 seconds if he supports nonsense
but they haven't, and won't

there been a federal budget worked out yet?
that swamp sure seems like nobody's been draining it
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but they haven't, and won't

there been a federal budget worked out yet?
that swamp sure seems like nobody's been draining it
This is why nothing will come of the rally in Virginia tomorrow. Everyone opposes the Dems, but for different reasons and no one wants to fall in line or join up with others who disagree on a million random points. No, Trump is not perfect. No, I do not have all the answers people seem to need. But I do know that people not voting because they don't like any of the candidates or voting for a nobody who can't win is going to hand victory to the Dems and their socialist agendas every goddamn time. Thinking selfishly will cost us all much more than whatever swamp draining, drug or whatever you want. For need of "X" you will lose everything.
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Old 01-19-2020, 01:58 PM   #906 (permalink)
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Gary Johnson is the farthest thing from a libertarian there is. Anti gunner black lives matter douche.
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I do not consider the bump stock thing to be severe enough to label Trump an "anti 2nd" President.
How much infringement are you ok with?
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How much infringement are you ok with?
Not one more fucking thing , because it's never enough for anti 2nd cocksuckers.

I'm done giving in because in the end they want to abolish the 2nd , don't kid yourself that is their end game.
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How much infringement are you ok with?
How much is not having access to a mass produced, PoS, weapon hack really infringing on your life?
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How much is not having access to a mass produced, PoS, weapon hack really infringing on your life?
That is 100% not the point. Infringement on my RIGHTS is infringement no matter if I do or don't ever want or need to buy one.
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That is 100% not the point. Infringement on my RIGHTS is infringement no matter if I do or don't ever want or need to buy one.
And so you are willing to give up ALL your rights because you can't have one that means little to nothing to you?
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That is 100% not the point. Infringement on my RIGHTS is infringement no matter if I do or don't ever want or need to buy one.
Here's a noodle scratcher for you:

Since the bump stock isn't a gun, and no guns were banned/confiscated/destroyed from it's banishment, is it actually a Second Amendment issue or is it really a 9th and 10th amendment issue?

Constitutional violations to be sure, but maybe it's less "muh 2nd amendment" and more complex for people to comprehend
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Gun people are their own worst enemy , if I don't use it ban it , so fuck off your help is not needed here.
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And so you are willing to give up ALL your rights because you can't have one that means little to nothing to you?
Dude, its pretty simple. We just disagree with you. Its obvious you can't understand that, but your stupid line of questioning isn't change our minds.
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This is why nothing will come of the rally in Virginia tomorrow. Everyone opposes the Dems, but for different reasons and no one wants to fall in line or join up with others who disagree on a million random points. No, Trump is not perfect. No, I do not have all the answers people seem to need. But I do know that people not voting because they don't like any of the candidates or voting for a nobody who can't win is going to hand victory to the Dems and their socialist agendas every goddamn time. Thinking selfishly will cost us all much more than whatever swamp draining, drug or whatever you want. For need of "X" you will lose everything.
your posts are reading more and more like landslide's every day

better watch out and leave a night light on, "the dems" are hiding in your closet
while the R's are fucking your wife in the other room
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Here's a noodle scratcher for you:

Since the bump stock isn't a gun, and no guns were banned/confiscated/destroyed from it's banishment, is it actually a Second Amendment issue or is it really a 9th and 10th amendment issue?

Constitutional violations to be sure, but maybe it's less "muh 2nd amendment" and more complex for people to comprehend

Veeery interesting point.
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Libertarians would be a lot easier to take seriously if they quit trying to put up Mitt Romney lite up as their candidate. Trump has furthered the Libertarian causes more than they could of ever hoped with their pathetic candidate and they still hate him. The only chance real libertarians have of getting their agenda done is through the Republican party. Vote with your heart in the primary, vote with your mind in the general. A step towards your cause is better than 3 steps back by wasting your vote and letting the enemy run the show.
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Here's a noodle scratcher for you:

Since the bump stock isn't a gun, and no guns were banned/confiscated/destroyed from it's banishment, is it actually a Second Amendment issue or is it really a 9th and 10th amendment issue?

Constitutional violations to be sure, but maybe it's less "muh 2nd amendment" and more complex for people to comprehend

but they are machine guns now.

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On February 20, 2018, President Trump issued a memorandum instructing the Attorney General “to dedicate all available resources to… propose for notice and comment a rule banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns.”

In response to that direction the Department reviewed more than 186,000 public comments and made the decision to make clear that the term “machinegun” as used in the National Firearms Act (NFA), as amended, and Gun Control Act (GCA), as amended, includes all bump-stock-type devices that harness recoil energy to facilitate the continuous operation of a semiautomatic long gun after a single pull of the trigger.
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and united behind republicans you will all fall too.

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and united behind republicans you will all fall too.

I'm an independent.

As cringeworthy as Trump is I'll vote for him in a heartbeat as a stand against the Democrats agenda.
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and united behind republicans you will all fall too.


You don't seem to grasp the concept of revolution from within, Same concept of building a hotrod off a running late model chassis because it's easier to start with a base than it is from scratch.


Get your Libertarian asses out and win some primaries, until you can do that with a semi conservative base, you have no business running as third party.
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but they are machine guns now.
So is a shoe lace
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So is a shoe lace
Last I checked nobody redefined a shoe lace to be a velcro strap.
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You don't seem to grasp the concept of revolution from within, Same concept of building a hotrod off a running late model chassis because it's easier to start with a base than it is from scratch.


Get your Libertarian asses out and win some primaries, until you can do that with a semi conservative base, you have no business running as third party.

riiight.

hows that tea party thing working out?
Isn't that when libertarians tried to change the republican party from within?
low taxes, freedom, all those sorts of things?

Where'd they all go?
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Here's a noodle scratcher for you:

Since the bump stock isn't a gun, and no guns were banned/confiscated/destroyed from it's banishment, is it actually a Second Amendment issue or is it really a 9th and 10th amendment issue?

Constitutional violations to be sure, but maybe it's less "muh 2nd amendment" and more complex for people to comprehend
Since ammunition isn't a gun, would regulations against ammunition be a second amendment issue?
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