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Old 01-26-2016, 05:24 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Wonder how the engines in police cars survive all those idling hours.
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:26 PM   #152 (permalink)
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I let my 00 4runner warm up for a few minutes before driving off usually too.

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Old 01-26-2016, 05:43 PM   #153 (permalink)
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How cold are we talking? I start my 01 7.3 in 20 degree temps and within 10 minutes of idling and 2 miles of very light driving my heater is blasting.
My idea of cold is below 0. But I also work in a -20 freezer year round. So if its zero degrees outside it "may" move slightly off the cold mark. Drop a 5-10 degrees and add 20 -30 mph winds blowing through the grill and you can watch the gauge drop a little at the stop light .
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:44 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Wonder how the engines in police cars survive all those idling hours.
Don't they get rotated out every 80k miles or so?
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:11 PM   #155 (permalink)
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Don't they get rotated out every 80k miles or so?
Yea and many end up as taxis that aren't retired until they get wrecked badly or hit 400k+and die. Go ahead and tell me idling the engine destroys it.
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:59 PM   #156 (permalink)
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Yea and many end up as taxis that aren't retired until they get wrecked badly or hit 400k+and die. Go ahead and tell me idling the engine destroys it.
I'm not saying it's the idling, but a good friend of mine was the fleet maintenance guy for a cab company and I helped him replace a lot of engines in the low 200's. Sure the cabs go 400k plus but most are on thier second or even third engine by then.

This is probably more attributed to the fact that they get driven like fucking rentals though.
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:35 AM   #157 (permalink)
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Yea no shit!

All the diesel airport equipment i worked with/on we idled them all winter because it was such a bitch to get it started in the first place that we were afraid it would never start again if we shut it off!! It was a cornucopia of military surplus equipment and old airline equipment 20yrs past the end of its usable life.

that i can understand, customers will drop their diesel trucks off the night before in the winter and you can almost count on them not starting, and good luck jump starting one with a autozone jump back it aint happening, so you either have to charge it for a few hours or put new batteries in it just to get it in the shop.

my neighbor a few doors down have nothing but ford diesels and i swear they let them things run all day and night im glad they aint my direct neighbors as that would get annoying really quick
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Old 01-27-2016, 12:17 PM   #158 (permalink)
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that i can understand, customers will drop their diesel trucks off the night before in the winter and you can almost count on them not starting, and good luck jump starting one with a autozone jump back it aint happening, so you either have to charge it for a few hours or put new batteries in it just to get it in the shop.

my neighbor a few doors down have nothing but ford diesels and i swear they let them things run all day and night im glad they aint my direct neighbors as that would get annoying really quick
I'm that neighbor . Luckily my driveway is like 8 feet from my neighbor's kitchen. I'm sure that they appreciate that sound of a washing machine full of hammers for a few minutes on the cold days that I take my 7.3 IDI to work. They have never come outside and said anything though, presumably because the thick white smoke screen that is produced keeps them on the other side of the property line .

I do try to pull it into the street as quickly as possible for it to finish warming up, since I'm all courteous and shit

Now the beater dd subaru wagon? I start that bitch in gear with my foot on the floor and roll out. I've got better places to be than waiting on it to get ready to rumble. No concerns of the effects of long idle times with that ride.
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Old 01-27-2016, 12:17 PM   #159 (permalink)
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If my engine only needed to make it 1/4 mile down the road that may make sense.

Cold weather idling will lead to more gas getting by the rings and into the oil, but it "burns off" once up to temp and unless it idling all day and never getting run its wont be enough to hurt anything.
Not really. unless you are revving your engine to the moon for an extended period of time the oil will not get hot enough to evaporate the gas out of it in the winter. If you've ever monitored oil temps you'll see that oil doesn't really warm up much unless the engine is spinning fast for a long time. Road loads and coolant temps don't warm an engine's oil up much unless it has an oil cooler/heater tied into the coolant loop.

A minute of idle is more than enough, the quicker you get the parts up to temp the better within reason.
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How cold are we talking? I start my 01 7.3 in 20 degree temps and within 10 minutes of idling and 2 miles of very light driving my heater is blasting.
20 degrees is t-shirt weather.
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Old 01-27-2016, 12:40 PM   #161 (permalink)
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there is a law on the books in this town where leaving your car idling is against the law. it's like a $200 ticket. and the reason behind the law is that people will steal the car for "joyrides"

a law to supposedly keep someone else from breaking the law

most cars shut off if you have the fob with ya if you get in and try to drive it....my vehicle has a mechanical lockout....and me.

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I drive an 07 6.7 Dodge diesel. Plugged in overnight and with 5-10 minutes of ilding I still don't get warm air before I get to work (2 mile drive). If I leave it ildling it'll never hit operating temp anyway but the closer I get the better it is for my turbo. Thank god for seat heaters. As for the article, there's a shit ton more to a car to consider than just the motor. Cold running most of the components will cause harm. And I doubt over the years that the idling damage done to the motor will equal the cold running damage done to the turbo, or turbos if you have to replace them. Dipshit is stepping over a dollar to save a dime. No matter which way you go, something is getting harmed. Go for comfort and be happy, the rest will sort itself out in the long run.
you actually drive a diesel with a two mile work commute? in conditions cold enough you would consider plugging it in at all?


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most cars shut off if you have the fob with ya if you get in and try to drive it....my vehicle has a mechanical lockout....and me.



you actually drive a diesel with a two mile work commute? in conditions cold enough you would consider plugging it in at all?


Glad to know you can take two facts and form a judgement. Nevermind that a Honda wouldn't tow my gooseneck, that maybe when I bought the truck the commute was different or that if it wasn't for the vgt it wouldn't be an issue either way.

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Glad to know you can take two facts and form a judgement. Nevermind that a Honda wouldn't tow my gooseneck, that maybe when I bought the truck the commute was different or that if it wasn't for the vgt it wouldn't be an issue either way.


judgement..... shock maybe...

2 miles...your just plum madd dogg mean to that poor thing....i hope it sees this post...and your diesel runs away and never comes back...i will give it a good home...


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