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Old 03-18-2018, 09:29 PM   #776 (permalink)
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Lets all go in on a group buy. Azzy can keep/maintain it, but must video it crushing/plowing/killdozerstuff that we chit chat ask him to do. PBB needs its own killdozer.
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I've followed this thread with great interest. I'll chip in a couple of dollars
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I like this thing, one of the few threads I follow.
You guys are awesome. I appreciate all of the support thru this project. It didn't sell before I left for work so I'll be putting it back up again when I get home and we will see what happens. I'd love to keep it.. hate to get rid of it, but the money would be better spent improving the shop. It's one less thing I'll feel obligated to work on when I'm home.

If it doesn't sell for my minimum I'll keep it and finish fixing the remaining issues as time permits.
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You guys are awesome. I appreciate all of the support thru this project. It didn't sell before I left for work so I'll be putting it back up again when I get home and we will see what happens. I'd love to keep it.. hate to get rid of it, but the money would be better spent improving the shop. It's one less thing I'll feel obligated to work on when I'm home.

If it doesn't sell for my minimum I'll keep it and finish fixing the remaining issues as time permits.
This is a much better idea. We need this.
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:13 AM   #778 (permalink)
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Cool, everyone needs a hor bore.
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Lets all go in on a group buy. Azzy can keep/maintain it, but must video it crushing/plowing/killdozerstuff that we chit chat ask him to do. PBB needs its own killdozer.
Fuck yeah, I'm in. This is one of my favorite threads on here.
I love old equipment like this, and live vicariously through this thread.

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Well if it does go, you best be posting other project threads! Specially if you do any work to the machines. I've never played with a HBM but I want to!!
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Love the build thread, but if it gets the IH build going again I'm OK with selling off the dozer
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Old 03-24-2018, 01:40 PM   #784 (permalink)
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Cool, everyone needs a hor bore.
I've been wanting one for a while but never found a reasonably priced one any where close to me. Found this by chance when I went to inspect the big Monarch. It was hiding behind some junk in their shop. I HAD to buy it for the price they were asking

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Fuck yeah, I'm in. This is one of my favorite threads on here.
I love old equipment like this, and live vicariously through this thread.
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Well if it does go, you best be posting other project threads! Specially if you do any work to the machines. I've never played with a HBM but I want to!!
Will do. I've never run one either, so this will be a learning experience getting it cleaned up and running again.

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Love the build thread, but if it gets the IH build going again I'm OK with selling off the dozer
I hear ya! It's been too long since I made ANY progress on that truck.
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This has been a cool thread to follow so sorry to see it go, but the fact that you managed to sell off a bulldozer yet replace it with more tonnage of iron seems a fitting end
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:41 PM   #786 (permalink)
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This has been a cool thread to follow so sorry to see it go, but the fact that you managed to sell off a bulldozer yet replace it with more tonnage of iron seems a fitting end
It's not gone yet, but is still for sale. We will see in the next few weeks.

Dozer is 13,000 lbs

New lathe ~ 12,000 lbs
Boring mill ~ 32,000 lbs

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You gotta give us some dozer porn before you sell it, of course thatís what we were all waiting for. Go knock something over and get it on video.
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You gotta give us some dozer porn before you sell it, of course thatís what we were all waiting for. Go knock something over and get it on video.
Will do. The weather should be nice this time home.
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Cool, everyone needs a hor bore.
This is 100% accurate. If I could only keep one between my hbm and my Bridgeport the Bridgeport would be gone in a heartbeat. The power and ridgitiy these things have is amazing. Friday I was drilling with a 1 1/2" morse taper drill. I was able to go through both sides of 7" x 3/8" square tubing with no pilot hole in one shot.

Azzy congrats on the awesome machine purchases. It hurts like hell to first pay for the stuff. However once you have it, you'll never be able to live without it.
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This is 100% accurate. If I could only keep one between my hbm and my Bridgeport the Bridgeport would be gone in a heartbeat. The power and ridgitiy these things have is amazing. Friday I was drilling with a 1 1/2" morse taper drill. I was able to go through both sides of 7" x 3/8" square tubing with no pilot hole in one shot.

Azzy congrats on the awesome machine purchases. It hurts like hell to first pay for the stuff. However once you have it, you'll never be able to live without it.
Thanks!

I can't wait to get them back to the shop in the next week or so and get them cleaned up and wired up. The HBM is going to need a better foundation than the slab in my shop.. thinking I might end up having to set some piers or replace a section with a much thicker pad.

It's going to cost me more to move the HBM than I paid for it. I'll have to partially disassemble to get it home unless I can find a reasonable price for a large rollback that can haul 32k lbs. I'm guessing I can shave 10k lbs off by removing the column / head, motor and the outboard support.
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don't drop the counterweight or its cable/chain!
table should come off somewhat easy too, and it'll be a couple thousand lbs

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I'll have to partially disassemble to get it home unless I can find a reasonable price for a large rollback that can haul 32k lbs.
IIRC, @DozerDan found such a hauler when he brought his backhoe home ( https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/gener...hose-done.html ), a semi truck with a Landoll type trailer should work (looking at: https://www.google.com/maps/search/Y...pment+hauling/ you should have at least 3-4 companies nearby who can handle such a job).

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IIRC, @DozerDan found such a hauler when he brought his backhoe home ( https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/gener...hose-done.html ), a semi truck with a Landoll type trailer should work (looking at: https://www.google.com/maps/search/Y...pment+hauling/ you should have at least 3-4 companies nearby who can handle such a job).

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I paid $125/hr for a lowboy. Machine was 30-40 minutes away, total was just over 4 hrs (mine was non running) $500 cash called it good.

You should be more than good at that weight, as he thought he was hauling 40k when he showed up, misheard 14k.

Use the dozer to load/unload -double win!
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Use the dozer to load/unload -double win!
Good luck with that. Mine is only rated for 4000 lbs. lift capacity and 7000 breakaway. Azzy will have his new toys in several pieces
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. Azzy will have his new toys in several pieces
That is his own fault Archimedes had some really good points when it coming to move heavy things, so did Newton. Its not what you can lift/move, but how you lift/move it...
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don't drop the counterweight or its cable/chain!
table should come off somewhat easy too, and it'll be a couple thousand lbs
It will be supported before I pull the column. I'm trying to avoid pulling the table but may have to depending on hauling options.

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I paid $125/hr for a lowboy. Machine was 30-40 minutes away, total was just over 4 hrs (mine was non running) $500 cash called it good.

You should be more than good at that weight, as he thought he was hauling 40k when he showed up, misheard 14k.

Use the dozer to load/unload -double win!
I have no doubt that a lowboy can handle it but I don't really want to pay lowboy prices to move this thing. I have a problem spending more to move iron than what I paid for it

The old machine shop is also in the middle of small town and access will be limited. I can't be blocking the whole street to angle an 18 wheeler in there.

I'm thinking a heavy duty tilt bed/rollback is the best option for the HBM. I just need to see who I can get out there and how much their truck can handle.

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That is his own fault Archimedes had some really good points when it coming to move heavy things, so did Newton. Its not what you can lift/move, but how you lift it
I have no trouble lifting/moving/rolling stuff like this. Toe jacks, 5' pry bars, 1" solid round bars and chain falls and come alongs will do wonders. The shop owner has a 6k forklift I can use to help load also. I've moved several 12 -14k machines by myself. It just comes down to actually hauling it home. The lathe is no big deal @ 12k lbs on my own trailer. The HBM is a different story.
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The lathe is no big deal @ 12k lbs on my own trailer. The HBM is a different story.
how far?
Fill the tires to 150, toss some 4x4s between the axles and frame
drive real slow

but I was raised doing really dumb shit with trailers
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but I was raised doing really dumb shit with trailers
Isn't that what trailers are for?

When it's definitely too dumb to do to your truck, you use the trailer!
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Isn't that what trailers are for?

When it's definitely too dumb to do to your truck, you borrow a trailer!
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That is his own fault Archimedes had some really good points when it coming to move heavy things, so did Newton. Its not what you can lift/move, but how you lift/move it...
Gravity is fucking awesome when you can control it.

I did this last week. Granted it was only ~3k lbs, but worked like a champ with only the slightest bit of pucker.
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