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Old 03-11-2016, 11:04 AM   #26 (permalink)
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The cruise control fire history as well as the steering column harness issue has had me inspecting the wiring on my 7.3 occasionally just in case. I've added some abrasion resistance in some places and my cruise control doesn't use the master cylinder switch but a brake pedal microswitch instead.
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:05 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:12 AM   #28 (permalink)
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That truck sacrificed it's life for beer drinkers everywhere! Make lotsa cans with that.

And yes the dealer's insurance is totally on the hook for this one and they better have a new truck idling in the parking lot for your Pops. This isn't his problem.

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No you don't.
Oh, you nailed me on a super-superficial detail, does that just make your and ademb's day?

Doesn't take away the main point his insurance should not have to pay out directly for it. Premiums indirectly go up/over time when you have a huge claim like that. Therefore it would be best even if your insurance is willing... to seek alternatives. That was my point.


Now pick that apart further to raise your pathetic self esteem level...

Thread is probably fake and OP is a dummy if he hasn't done any of the above already anyway, he is the one not thinking. You are just a dumb, inciting, inflammatory troll.
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:16 AM   #30 (permalink)
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WHOOSH!
ok, notify them.

I would think the simple explanation that it burst into flames in the dealers custody while you were not driving it/not in possession of it would trigger another avenue of events but who knows?

Something fishy too... OP hasn't posted in a while, then this bombshell? with no explanation what he is attempting to get out of it? What mechanic is so dumb he cannot smell smoke prior to a fire of that magnitude? No fire extinguisher was carried by mechanic? Lot's of stuff doesn't add up.....
You should loosen your tinfoil hat. Geez man, everything is not some grand conspiracy lol
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If they did the left valve cover the High Pressure Fuel Pump had to come off. I would suspect a fuel fire rather than an oil fire....meh
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But why involve your insurance and expose them/you indirectly to the liability?


Ford clearly fucked it up while it was in their hands. Whether the dealer did it, or was truly a manufacturing defect, Ford should bear 100% of the liability and replacement cost. Trying to involve your insurance sorta implies you played some role or had some responsibility in that outcome..... As a complete last resort maybe? imho...
It is not in "Fords hands" a ford dealer is independently owner and operated. They are just certified by Ford to sell and fix their shit.

You have insurance just for reasons like this, part of your premium it to handle car damage type shit for you. You never talk to another parties insurance or attorney that is your insurances job. It is what you pay them to do for you.

This is how it goes. You buy truck, you insure it with XYZ company and you pay a premium every month so that if anything happens to your truck they fix it. Part of that is dealing with the other party/ insurance/ lawyers. Then when shit like this happens you sit at home eating a bologna sandwich with your replacement/ fixed truck sitting in the driveway.

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Oh, you nailed me on a super-superficial detail, does that just make your and ademb's day?

Doesn't take away the main point his insurance should not have to pay out directly for it. Premiums indirectly go up/over time when you have a huge claim like that. Therefore it would be best even if your insurance is willing... to seek alternatives. That was my point.


Now pick that apart further to raise your pathetic self esteem level...

Thread is probably fake and OP is a dummy if he hasn't done any of the above already anyway, he is the one not thinking. You are just a dumb, inciting, inflammatory troll.
You should self combust.
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Something fishy too... OP hasn't posted in a while, then this bombshell? with no explanation what he is attempting to get out of it?Lot's of stuff doesn't add up.....
Old man couldn't afford the car payment. A little nick in the fuel line was all it took to get out of the contract.
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It is not in "Fords hands" a ford dealer is independently owner and operated. They are just certified by Ford to sell and fix their shit.

You have insurance just for reasons like this, part of your premium it to handle car damage type shit for you. You never talk to another parties insurance or attorney that is your insurances job. It is what you pay them to do for you.

This is how it goes. You buy truck, you insure it with XYZ company and you pay a premium every month so that if anything happens to your truck they fix it. Part of that is dealing with the other party/ insurance/ lawyers. Then when shit like this happens you sit at home eating a bologna sandwich with your replacement/ fixed truck sitting in the driveway.
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:42 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Several week old new is a total loss.....You think the owner's insurance will reimburse him for a brand new truck...or will the settlement be based on depreciation?
Depending on the state laws....If a shop is fixing your vehicle they are responsible for any damage...

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If they did the left valve cover the High Pressure Fuel Pump had to come off. I would suspect a fuel fire rather than an oil fire....meh
That would be my guess as well. If fuel started spraying and lit off, the driver may have bailed leaving the key on and the fuel pump running
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Something is fishy here. How many vehicles on the road leak a little oil from their valve cover gaskets and when was the last time you saw one spontaneously combust because of it?
Turbos be hot as fuck. I dripped oil on a hot turbo once, instant fire.

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That would be my guess as well. If fuel started spraying and lit off, the driver may have bailed leaving the key on and the fuel pump running
In other words the mechanic did him a favor!

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So now we know that aluminum panels don't hold up to fire very well LOL.

You're dad's insurance should be cutting him a check for a new truck right now and taking up this fight with Ford. This shouldn't be his problem. And the dealership should be cutting him a smoking deal on the new truck he buys.
The aluminum bedsides look mostly fine!
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Because having an aluminum bodied vehicle is such a great idea.
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Because having an aluminum bodied vehicle is such a great idea.
At least it wasn't a magnesium body.
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Doubt it, first one I've seen or heard of... I pay a lot of attention on Ford sites but I'll admit, not specifically slanted towards trucks. They've been using the 3.5 ecoboost in trucks since 2011.

edit: You are far more likely to be involved in a nuclear meltdown in just about any given Chrysler/dodge vehicle.. (if I was a betting man...)


Not to negate the seriousness of the OP's issue. I'd probably be lawyering up if they were dicking me around...
Nope this is happening pretty regular, the new Ford melts into a nice neat little pile.
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It is not in "Fords hands" a ford dealer is independently owner and operated. They are just certified by Ford to sell and fix their shit.

You have insurance just for reasons like this, part of your premium it to handle car damage type shit for you. You never talk to another parties insurance or attorney that is your insurances job. It is what you pay them to do for you.
this. Each dealer is independently owned and operated. Ford Motor Company does not own or operate the dealerships. It would be no different if it was at Joe Shmoe's repair shop.
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Because having an aluminum bodied vehicle is such a great idea.
I don't understand this statement at all.
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Aluminum, like magnesium, will catch fire when exposed to atmospheric oxygen and heated up to a high enough temperature.
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Looks like this "kit" is no longer needed.

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Aluminum, like magnesium, will catch fire when exposed to atmospheric oxygen and heated up to a high enough temperature.
Yeah, I'm thinking the firefighters don't enjoy when they get a call one of those things are on fire.
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Because having an aluminum bodied vehicle is such a great idea.

Peterbilt, Freightliner, International and a lot of other class 8 truck manufactures seem to think so.
Idiot
Pretty obvious the dealer fawked up and is trying to weasel out of it.

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Yeah, I'm thinking the firefighters don't enjoy when they get a call one of those things are on fire.
It's really not a big deal. Aluminum burns poorly unless it's pure, or alloyed heavily with magnesium, and is either in a real thin sheet or powder. You can clearly see that the box on that truck did not burn, if it was a true 'metal fire' it would have all been gone. Where it burned was only where there was something else burning to keep dumping energy into the reaction.

Know what else burns when it's hot and exposed to oxygen? Steel...
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