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Old 03-28-2016, 02:50 PM   #76 (permalink)
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You morons are setting up straw man arguments; I never said minimum wage should pay enough to support a family of 4, but it should pay enough to support an individual and not have them rely on any form of welfare.

And no, they should not have to work 80hrs a week for food and rent. Might as well bring back slavery at that point.

But hey, keep being content with multi-billion dollar corporations underpaying their employees and then having you foot the bill for their welfare benefits.
The more you post, the dumber you sound. A couple of my employees make $9 hr (min wage).
After tax, they take home $1080 a month at 40hrs.
A shitty apartment is $500 per month.
Boost mobile phone $50
Power and gas for apartments $100
This leaves $480 for food. Please explain how one cannot survive on this.
And don't give me some bullshit about car payments etc. This is what minimum wage is based on. The minimum required to survive.
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The more you post, the dumber you sound. A couple of my employees make $9 hr (min wage).
After tax, they take home $1080 a month at 40hrs.
A shitty apartment is $500 per month.
Boost mobile phone $50
Power and gas for apartments $100
This leaves $480 for food. Please explain how one cannot survive on this.
And don't give me some bullshit about car payments etc. This is what minimum wage is based on. The minimum required to survive.
but the world owes them enough money to be able to go out with their friends, and have a new car, and have the latest iphone.

how dare you deprive them of those things, you evil 1% motherfucker.
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Old 03-28-2016, 03:01 PM   #78 (permalink)
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The more you post, the dumber you sound. A couple of my employees make $9 hr (min wage).
After tax, they take home $1080 a month at 40hrs.
A shitty apartment is $500 per month.
Boost mobile phone $50
Power and gas for apartments $100
This leaves $480 for food. Please explain how one cannot survive on this.
And don't give me some bullshit about car payments etc. This is what minimum wage is based on. The minimum required to survive.
Wrong, minnimum wage jobs are supposed to get you by in college or as a job to have gas money in high school.

Not to survive long term.

I feel that there should be no minimum wage imo.
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Another nice note that may have been missed. A min wage worker doing 40 hours a week makes what an E5 in the military does.

How cute.
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The more you post, the dumber you sound. A couple of my employees make $9 hr (min wage).
After tax, they take home $1080 a month at 40hrs.
A shitty apartment is $500 per month.
Boost mobile phone $50
Power and gas for apartments $100
This leaves $480 for food. Please explain how one cannot survive on this.
And don't give me some bullshit about car payments etc. This is what minimum wage is based on. The minimum required to survive.
Don't forget $400 for student loans for the worthless degrees these fucksticks get because man it's gonna be livin the life..then they complain because their field of choice was a fucking overblown diaster and they thought they should be driving BMW 750li's by the time they hit 26 years old and living in Granite Bay.....then they complain how college was too expensive and didn't get them anywhere except answering phones at the local pest control company
$80 for food is plenty for a month if you eat smart

Oh wait....wrong thread
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You morons are setting up straw man arguments; I never said minimum wage should pay enough to support a family of 4, but it should pay enough to support an individual and not have them rely on any form of welfare.

And no, they should not have to work 80hrs a week for food and rent. Might as well bring back slavery at that point.

But hey, keep being content with multi-billion dollar corporations underpaying their employees and then having you foot the bill for their welfare benefits.
You're the worst kind of stupid. You actually have some intelligence but no sense to be able to use it.

It's not a "straw man argument" (come up with your own words by the way instead of parroting liberal mantras) for those of us that are living it. People that actually employ other people. Most business and most employees in the US are small businesses. Quit spewing your bullshit about evil corporations.
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Another nice note that may have been missed. A min wage worker doing 40 hours a week makes what an E5 in the military does.

How cute.
ceptin' an E5 gets housing, meals, medical insurance and a GI bill for college.

Sweet deal.
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ceptin' an E5 gets housing, meals, medical insurance and a GI bill for college.

Sweet deal.
They are also putting their life on the line for that. They should be paid more. And if you think people making 15.00 will not be getting benefits as well you are smoking some strong stuff. See seattle where people dropped their hours so they can still get benefits.
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ceptin' an E5 gets housing, meals, medical insurance and a GI bill for college.

Sweet deal.
umm, no.

Medical insurance is moot, both get due to these fuckers and their unions.

Meals are moot, both get, if the civi is working at food service they get free or comped meals.

Housing? even WITH housing, a $15 an hour fucker working JUST 40 hours a week ( my "normal" work week is 40 hours, normal, no troop/ship movements, no extra, no meetings, nothing) makes more

An e-5 is a MANAGEMENT position, it is NOT a fucking floor mopper. Maybe that should put it into better context. The equivalent military rank to an entry level fast food worker is making 10-15k LESS a year even taking into actual BAS/BAH.

By the way, you have a couple hundred thousand of these ranks in your state. Will be amusing to see how THEY survive when the rest of the cost of living jumps and the mil will not compensate that high for it.

Fuck, it will be amusing when your current $15-20hr workers get hit with that same impact ya, because cost of living will not increase based on min wage
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and wait till they start paying taxes on all that money they are now making... I'm sure they will be glad that they are finally contributing members of society.
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Question for others here: How many of you: (1) started at minimum wage; (2) at what age; and (3) how long before you got a raise above the minimum?
In 1978 I got a job at the local Coco's restaurant bussing tables for minimum wage. I was 16 at the time. Within two months I had earned a $0.25/hour raise, within four months I was doing kitchen prep and making $8.25/hour, within 45 days sfter that I was on the cook's line making $9.50/hour. By the time I left for boot camp in 1980 I was lead cook, earning $12.50/hour.

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They are also putting their life on the line for that. They should be paid more. And if you think people making 15.00 will not be getting benefits as well you are smoking some strong stuff. See seattle where people dropped their hours so they can still get benefits.
I don't think Screwy's smoking anything. I think he's been huffing from a Jenkem jar; it's the only plausible explanation.
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Question for others here: How many of you: (1) started at minimum wage; (2) at what age; and (3) how long before you got a raise above the minimum?
Mowed a lot of lawns before I ever had a "real job". Those were probably min wage or less in this cheap town.

Worked at JC Penney selling electronics which was minimum wage + commission in high school. In college when I came home for the summers I worked loading trucks at a dairy factory. That was $1.50 over min wage and got a raise ever summer I went back. Worked that job all through college when I was home. At college worked slinging paint at Sherwin Williams, over minimum wage.

So short answer is, no, I never really worked for minimum wage. By my own choice. Fuck if I was going to settle for minimum wage.
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He's a lube and wash jockey at a stealership.
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Wrong, minnimum wage jobs are supposed to get you by in college or as a job to have gas money in high school.

Not to survive long term.

I feel that there should be no minimum wage imo.
I completely agree, simply pointing out that survival is completely doable on minimum wage to the idiot.
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Keep up, doofus. He asked that of Bozoscene. I answered.
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He's a lube and wash jockey at a stealership.
I must be the best-paid lube jockey on the east coast then...

And at least I'm employed, loser.
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You assume everyone making minimum wage is a 25 year old with 3 kids apparently.
Minimum wage earners comprise 3.9% of unsalaried workers.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/cps/...rkers-2014.pdf

In 2014, 77.2 million workers age 16 and older in the
United States were paid at hourly rates, representing 58.7
percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those
paid by the hour, 1.3 million earned exactly the prevailing
federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 1.7 million
had wages below the federal minimum. Together, these
3.0 million workers with wages at or below the federal
minimum made up 3.9 percent of all hourly paid workers.

And to take the math just a bit farther:

That 3.0 million is 2.2% of the 131.2 million total workers.

One could argue that a raise for that 2.2% is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, but Union rates are tied into minimum wage. If minimum wage goes up, union wages go up correspondingly.

Richard Berman: Why Unions Want a Higher Minimum Wage - WSJ
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In 1978 I got a job at the local Coco's restaurant bussing tables for minimum wage. I was 16 at the time. Within two months I had earned a $0.25/hour raise, within four months I was doing kitchen prep and making $8.25/hour, within 45 days sfter that I was on the cook's line making $9.50/hour. By the time I left for boot camp in 1980 I was lead cook, earning $12.50/hour.
All through jr high and high school I worked for minimum wage a a farm a few miles from my house. We grew mostly celery but also some onions and celery cabbage (kinda like leaf lettuce). Between hs and college and also after my freshman and sophomore years of college I worked for HJ Heinz at their pickle processing plant in Holland, Mi. We would work 12 hour shifts Monday through Saturday and sometimes 8 hours on Sundays and I made about twice minimum as a base plus overtime and double time on Sundays. When it got slow they'd take me to the line where they made their own cans and I'd get to strap pallets of empty cans for about a 25% premium. Between my junior and senior years of college I worked as a summer intern for McDonnell Douglas in St Louis. After college I took a job as an entry level engineer at IBM in Rochester, MN making ~$30k in 1984. I had ~$2000 in college debt but had that all paid off in under two years and was able to buy my first house.

And during college I saved money by not having a car, not partying much and not going anywhere but to my parent's on spring break. I'd come home from school after the spring term with less than $100 dollars and then go to work to build up my next year's school fund. If you're willing to sacrifice for a short period of time you can set yourself up very well.
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That's true. That's up to the minimum wage law.
So based on inflation rates and the initial minimum wage of $0.25 in 1938, we should adjust minimum wage to $4.20. Spectacular idea, Screwy.

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No, holocene, ya twit.
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Don't forget $400 for student loans for the worthless degrees these fucksticks get because man it's gonna be livin the life..then they complain because their field of choice was a fucking overblown diaster and they thought they should be driving BMW 750li's by the time they hit 26 years old and living in Granite Bay.....then they complain how college was too expensive and didn't get them anywhere except answering phones at the local pest control company
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$2.76 a day is plenty of food if you're smart? Where are you buying three meals for under $1 each?
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$2.76 a day is plenty of food if you're smart? Where are you buying three meals for under $1 each?
Eat at Costco.
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So based on inflation rates and the initial minimum wage of $0.25 in 1938, we should adjust minimum wage to $4.20. Spectacular idea, Screwy.

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