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Old 06-12-2016, 07:16 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Every time I hear a story like this I hate having to think " I hope it's a Muslim terrorist and not some nut".
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There is a huge part of me who really really hopes this turns out to be a muzzie. However...

The reality of it will likely be some christian biblethumping fuck... and my gay friends wonder why I am armed all the time and why I am so hostile to religious people.
Little need to distinguish between Christians, Muslims, and nuts.

They are all pretty much the same, and share belief in nonsense and adherence to doctrines responsible for centuries of violence and oppression.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:20 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Little need to distinguish between Christians, Muslims, and nuts.

They are all pretty much the same, and share belief in nonsense and adherence to doctrines responsible for centuries of violence and oppression.
Exactly.

And that is why Ted Cruz would have never been POTUS when your ideaolgy is based on religious views.



But sounds like this dude is:

1.not Christian
2. Possible nutjob
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Fox News is saying that the gunman is Muslim and on an FBI watch list on account of boasts about being tied to various Muslim terror groups.

I'm sure that Dear Leader will find a way to ignore the fact that the perp is a Muslim with an axe to grind against homosexuals, and blame it all on guns. He'll probably squeeze out a few crocodile tears too. The Hildebeast will undoubtedly be in lock-step with the same agenda.
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And trump will say "see, told ya so" and hit ratings will spike once again.
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Little need to distinguish between Christians, Muslims, and nuts.

They are all pretty much the same, and share belief in nonsense and adherence to doctrines responsible for centuries of violence and oppression.
I'll see you in church or in hell.

Same argument made in this exact thread about guns and the people that pull the trigger. https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/gener...3-traitor.html
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:32 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Little need to distinguish between Christians, Muslims, and nuts.

They are all pretty much the same, and share belief in nonsense and adherence to doctrines responsible for centuries of violence and oppression.
This.


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The reality of it will likely be some christian biblethumping fuck...
Odds are OB is correct.

If it is a muzzie, how will the democrats spin it and still keep the liberal gay vote?
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And trump will say "see, told ya so" and hit ratings will spike once again.
There's a lot of truth in that. Sucks because all the cheap AR shit is about to disappear again.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:38 AM   #33 (permalink)
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BBC is also now reporting, in their words "possible leanings to radical islam"
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Orlando, Omar Mateen is U.S. citizen from Port Saint Lucie, FL. His parents are from Afghanistan. He was born 1986.
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Little need to distinguish between Christians, Muslims, and nuts.

They are all pretty much the same, and share belief in nonsense and adherence to doctrines responsible for centuries of violence and oppression.
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Fox News is saying that the gunman is Muslim and on an FBI watch list on account of boasts about being tied to various Muslim terror groups.

I'm sure that Dear Leader will find a way to ignore the fact that the perp is a Muslim with an axe to grind against homosexuals, and blame it all on guns. He'll probably squeeze out a few crocodile tears too. The Hildebeast will undoubtedly be in lock-step with the same agenda.
Maybe wait and see juuuuuust another hour or so . . . . . . . . .

Yes, Trump will win on this and thank you very much.
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If it is a muzzie, how will the democrats spin it and still keep the liberal gay vote?

They will focus only on the assault rifle angle, how, when, why he got it, unless it was bought illegally.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:40 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Little need to distinguish between Christians, Muslims, and nuts.

They are all pretty much the same, and share belief in nonsense and adherence to doctrines responsible for centuries of violence and oppression.
One of my best friends is very religious and is a teacher in a public school. He says that as a Christian, one of his duties is to protect homosexual students from the jackass high school kids that pick on them and beat them up.
Let's contrast that with the Muslim view on homosexuals. For example the subject of this thread.
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Oh crap, mudslinger99 gonna be all up an pissy this thread is being spun political and Muslim.
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BBC is also now reporting, in their words "possible leanings to radical islam"
The muzzies must think that no one will retaliate.


Their is a reason that the muzzies haven't blown up any preschools here. They know that would get the average U.S. citizen off the porch.
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They will focus only on the assault rifle angle, how, when, why he got it, unless it was bought illegally.
That they will.

They will have to placate the gays though. Good luck with that. If Trump was intelligent he could use this and really lock up the election. His is an idiot though.
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obama is probably already writing the speach that will air on every channel about how this is a gun problem and not a Muslim problem
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One of my best friends is very religious and is a teacher in a public school. He says that as a Christian, one of his duties is to protect homosexual students from the jackass high school kids that pick on them and beat them up.
Let's contrast that with the Muslim view on homosexuals. For example the subject of this thread.
News flash: The "as a Christian" thing is pointless. IT'S HIS FUCKING JOB!

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obama is probably already writing the speach that will air on every channel about how this is a gun problem and not a Muslim problem
No he's not. He has stock ones he goes uses. (Insert state name)
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obama is probably already writing the speach that will air on every channel about how this is a gun problem and not a Muslim problem
And he is correct. If more gay folks had guns they could have stopped the shooter. That is a problem.
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Little need to distinguish between Christians, Muslims, and nuts.

They are all pretty much the same, and share belief in nonsense and adherence to doctrines responsible for centuries of violence and oppression.
And you're under your own classification along with overbear as nuts. You both think it's perfectly ok to spew your hate. Hypocrites.
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Crack reporting from CNN says it started outside the nightclub. If that's true somebody should have been a better shot and ended this before it started.

And if you think Christians are wacko about gays, the Muslims are much, much worse.

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Orlando, Florida (CNN)Approximately 20 people are dead inside Pulse, a gay nightclub, Orlando Police Chief John Mina said Sunday morning, just hours after a shooter opened fire in the club. At least 42 people have been transported for medical treatment, he said.

Police have shot and killed the gunman, Mina told reporters.
"It's appears he was organized and well-prepared," the chief said, adding that the shooter had an assault-type weapon, a handgun and "some type of (other) device on him."
At least nine officers were involved in the shootout, Mina said. Several coroner vans were seen traveling toward the nightclub.
One officer suffered an eye injury when a bullet struck his Kevlar helmet, said Danny Banks, special agent in charge of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's Orlando bureau. The helmet saved the officer's life, Banks said.
The shooter is not from the Orlando area, Mina said.
Orlando authorities said they consider the violence an act of domestic terror. The FBI is involved. While investigators are exploring all angles, they "have suggestions the individual has leanings towards (Islamic terrorism), but right now we can't say definitely," said Ron Hopper, assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Orlando bureau.
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The shooting began around 2 a.m., and an officer who was working at the club responded, Mina said. The officer engaged in a shootout outside the club, after which the gunman ran into the club.
"That turned into a hostage situation," Mina said.
Authorities were getting calls from people inside the club but away from the gunman, the chief said.

More police rushed to the scene and broke down a door with an armored vehicle, helping some 30 club-goers flee to safety, Mina said. At that point police shot and killed the gunman, he said.
CNN affiliate WKMG video captured clubgoers carrying injured people from the club.
"It's just shocking," said Christopher Hansen who was inside Pulse. He heard gunshots, "just one after another after another. It could have lasted a whole song," he said.
"Everyone get out of Pulse and keep running," the nightclub posted on its Facebook page shortly after the violence began.
Orlando police warned residents to stay away from the area, and urged people not to call their offices. They declined to provide the number of casualties, saying details will be available later. Bomb sniffing dogs are on the scene.
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Pulse describes itself as "the hottest gay bar" in the heart of Orlando. Hours before the shooting, the club urged party-goers to attend its "Latin flavor" event Saturday night.
Jovial, well-dressed crowds heeded the call in an event that turned into a nightmare.
"It was just, bang, bang, bang!" party-goer Hansen said of the gunfire.
Ricardo Negron Almodovar said he was in the club when the shooting started about 2 a.m. He barely escaped.
"People on the dance floor and bar got down on the floor and some of us who were near the bar and back exit managed to go out through the outdoor area and just ran," he posted on the club's Facebook page.
"I am safely home and hoping everyone gets home safely as well."
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Anthony Torres, who was at the club with friends, said he heard shots as he hurriedly drove off.
"The shots did not sound like a regular handgun. It sounded like it was shooting repetitively and it wouldn't stop," he said.
"So we knew what it was and we left there pretty quick. It was over 70 cop cars that were arriving there ... It happened so quick that people got separated from each other."
Tearful relatives waited outside the club as lights from police cars flashed in the background. Some implored the media to help them get word on their loved ones.
'Just a lot of people screaming'
The sound of gunshots echoed beyond the club.
Jose Torres was clocking in to work at a Dunkin' Donuts across the street when he heard them.
"It was something that I never heard before," Torres said. "I had to run inside the store, and I saw just a lot of people screaming, crying. Just screaming and coming out running like crazy."
Torres said he ducked into the Dunkin' Donuts and called 911 as several people dashed out of the club, bleeding. Police and SWAT teams rushed to the scene.
"They don't let nobody in or out," he said. "The SWAT team is inside there."
FBI agents were also assisting at the scene, agency spokeswoman Amy Pittman said.
Authorities have conducted a controlled explosion near the nightclub, according to Orlando police.
Tom Fuentes, a CNN law enforcement analyst, said controlled explosions are used to breach a door or when a subject is barricaded in a room and police want to use a stun grenade to temporarily freeze their central nervous system.
Hospitals on lockdown
Authorities urged caution as police officers hovered nearby with weapons and dogs.
A few miles away, the Orlando Regional Medical Center was placed on lockdown, the hospital said in a statement. Only essential workers are being allowed access into the building.
Relatives looking for loved ones were instructed to go to the medical center's north tower with identification. Hospital staff will escort family members with IDs to a family meeting area.
Arnold Palmer Hospital and Winnie Palmer Hospital were also placed on lockdown out of an abundance of caution, officials said.
The mass shooting occurred only a few miles from Orlando's Plaza Live theater where 22-year-old singer Christina Grimmie, who had appeared on NBC's "The Voice," was gunned down Friday night.
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That they will.



They will have to placate the gays though. Good luck with that. If Trump was intelligent he could use this and really lock up the election. His is an idiot though.

The Lesbian/gay alliance of Florida or whatever the fuck will be suing bushmaster and bass pro shops with liberal supplied lawyers this time next year.
Trump will focus on Islam and not gain any more support than he already has, just reinforce it.
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News flash: The "as a Christian" thing is pointless. IT'S HIS FUCKING JOB!

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I realize it has been 60 or 70 years since you went to HS but let me remind you that the vast majority of teachers really did not want to get involved in bullshit like that. None of them at my HS would stick there neck out for anyone.
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I realize it has been 60 or 70 years since you went to HS but let me remind you that the vast majority of teachers really did not want to get involved in bullshit like that. None of them at my HS would stick there neck out for anyone.
Really? They did at my schools in the 70's and at my daughter's school in the last 7 years.
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Really? They did at my schools in the 70's and at my daughter's school in the last 7 years.
At my HS, a few miles from the one he works at, there was a lot of "boys will be boys" or "as long as there is no blood..."

I think that is generally a good thing but I didn't pick on people or get picked on. I am through hijacking this thread. If you want to argue, pm me.
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