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Old 07-14-2016, 08:51 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You could teach about butthole fingering or when everyone in the US became a pussy. Just like with Lettuce Bacon Guacamole & Tomato, they don't belong in history books. It's not history. They should teach that lesson in Psychology 101 in the mental illness section.
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If lgbt is allowed in school, so should religion.
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:58 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Skip the labels already! If someone did something awesome for the country in the past just tell what they did. No need to mention their religion, whether if they were right or left handed, who they dated etc.. Unless it somehow contributed to their accomplishment. Damn, just get down to the basics.
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If lgbt is allowed in school, so should religion.

How about we just stick to education and not indoctrination?
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How about we just stick to education and not indoctrination?
The teaching they do is not even the worst thing. You should see some of what they ignore in the school districts, and see how serious they are about truancy. Let me tell you, they care more about you kid chewing a poptart into a shape of a gun, then you kid learing how to read or even show up for school.


And for those that do not know. SARB. The school attendence review board, os all talk and threats. Pussies are only there for the pay, and do not care about your kids. That goes all the way to the district attorneys.
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The teaching they do is not even the worst thing. You should see some of what they ignore in the school districts, and see how serious they are about truancy. Let me tell you, they care more about you kid chewing a poptart into a shape of a gun, then you kid learing how to read or even show up for school.


And for those that do not know. SARB. The school attendence review board, os all talk and threats. Pussies are only there for the pay, and do not care about your kids. That goes all the way to the district attorneys.
Your school districts suck ass then.
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No. But why does it matter? What honestly has the LGBT movement done to advance our society? Nothing except suck some dicks, give a couple vags rug burn and give us Will and Grace. That's it.
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What contribution to society has been made by a queer, that couldn't have been made if they weren't queer?
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The point is there are literally tens of thousands of topics about which children should be taught rather than worthless lgbt attention-needing garbage.
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No. But why does it matter? What honestly has the LGBT movement done to advance our society? Nothing except suck some dicks, give a couple vags rug burn and give us Will and Grace. That's it.

Native American history didn't mean shit 100 years ago, either--it was just another group we hated and despised.

But if you haven't studied the tactics of the plains indians, you're a moron.
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So what. It's all part of history, or are you in favor of censoring lessons?
The problem is they won't be teaching history they'll be forcing acceptance. I have no problem with schools teaching history about LGBT or civil rights or Islam but they don't do it from an unbiased point of view.
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How about we just stick to education and not indoctrination?
No argument from me. I think education has long deviated from what it should be.
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Native American history didn't mean shit 100 years ago, either--it was just another group we hated and despised.

But if you haven't studied the tactics of the plains indians, you're a moron.
Cause Plains Indian tactics are such an important skill set today.
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So what. It's all part of history, or are you in favor of censoring lessons?
What people choose to do behind closed doors, is no one's business, but the people involved.

It's not a lesson, that should ever be brought up in schools.

Kids should be taught to do their own thing, and leave other people alone.
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So what. It's all part of history, or are you in favor of censoring lessons?
It's a very small part of "history". One that really needs only a day or two to cover, in a sex ed class of some type. It's not "history", it's biology.
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Native American history didn't mean shit 100 years ago, either--it was just another group we hated and despised.

But if you haven't studied the tactics of the plains indians, you're a moron.
I'm assuming since you talk so highly of it, that you have studied the tactics of the plains indians. Yet you're still a moron...
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It's a very small part of "history". One that really needs only a day or two to cover, in a sex ed class of some type. It's not "history", it's biology.
from a social ecology and civil rights standpoint it is a large part of modern history.

there are a fair number of laws, court cases and social movements surrounding LGBT issues. from both the "pro" and "anti" side.

that makes it important enough to warrant some class time to at least cover some of the factual stuff.

sex ed has already covered homosexuality for years.
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so does anyone have a link to any kind of curriculum surrounding this or are we just going to sit here and spout off about how much we hate gay people?
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so does anyone have a link to any kind of curriculum surrounding this or are we just going to sit here and spout off about how much we hate gay people?
Nobody is talking about hating gay people. I don't get to make history for crossing the street. They don't get to make the books for sucking a dick. You actually have to do something greater than whining about a cake to justify as being "history".
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History is irrelevant unless a person can do something with the facts...Much of what is said on the forum as facts of history can be disputed by another person's version of history...Example, the physical history of "Civil War" is well documented by photographs, but the reasons for the war are disputed...
Fag history? About about teaching heterosexual history ?

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No. But why does it matter? What honestly has the LGBT movement done to advance our society? Nothing except suck some dicks, give a couple vags rug burn and give us Will and Grace. That's it.
Shakespeare, Alexander the Great, Sir Francis Bacon (I love that name), Leonardo Da Vinci, President James Buchanan, George Bernard Shaw, J. Edgar Hoover and of course Alan Turning(who without we may very well never have won WW2 without). Just to name a few history making folks that gave the world, and society a huge boost.

I would say (and note this, i fucking HATE the way this term is used) the so called "LGBT" community has contributed quite a bit. I would say teaching a little history from that perspective isn't a bad thing. Not sure about it being a focus of study, but it should be touched on for sure.
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Still is? What's taught about religion today?
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How about we just stick to education and not indoctrination?
Yup. Also we should stick to following COTUS. Some people need to read the numerous COTUS rulings about religion in public schools.
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Shakespeare, Alexander the Great, Sir Francis Bacon (I love that name), Leonardo Da Vinci, President James Buchanan, George Bernard Shaw, J. Edgar Hoover and of course Alan Turning(who without we may very well never have won WW2 without). Just to name a few history making folks that gave the world, and society a huge boost.

I would say (and note this, i fucking HATE the way this term is used) the so called "LGBT" community has contributed quite a bit. I would say teaching a little history from that perspective isn't a bad thing. Not sure about it being a focus of study, but it should be touched on for sure.

I have no doubt you want to touch on it for sure
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