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Old 08-09-2016, 05:47 AM   #26 (permalink)
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apparently, everyone knew exactly what Trump was and is and they STILL picked him over your fuck-boy Cruz.

What does that tell you about Cruz?
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apparently, everyone knew exactly what Trump was and is and they STILL picked him over your fuck-boy Cruz.

What does that tell you about Cruz?
That a majority of republicans chose Trump says that we are fucked beyond any hope.
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Old 08-09-2016, 06:05 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Are you standing when you type this drivel?
Data supports what I say. Even Bush in 2004, McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012 were doing far better at this time than Trump. None of them were facing revolts within their own parties, even the god-awful McCain. Trump isn't even winning in the polls in all states Romney won in 2012... And Romney had his ass handed to him by Obama.

You do the math. I guess it's asking too much.

You and your fellow Trumpkins picked the only candidate who could possibly lose to Hillary. Congratulations.
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Why does anyone believe ONE SINGLE WORD that any political candidate says?
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Data supports what I say. Even Bush in 2004, McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012 were doing far better at this time than Trump. None of them were facing revolts within their own parties, even the god-awful McCain. Trump isn't even winning in the polls in all states Romney won in 2012... And Romney had his ass handed to him by Obama.

You do the math. I guess it's asking too much.
Yep. Trump had a slight bump in the polls after the DNC email story broke, but he's fallen pretty far since then. The last time the split in polling was as bad as it is now was back in April.
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I would be perfectly happy to ignore Trump and his mindless followers, except that they are going to throw the nation into the arms of Hillary, likely losing congress in the process and giving Hillary two years of carte blanche to finish Obama's fundamental transformation of the nation.

They were warned over and over that the man was a closeted progressive and that he was going to lose to the weakest democrat candidate in generations. But no... Trump was going to make America great again!

Ok, what do you propose to do then now? If you anti trumpers some how manage to kick him out, that'll be a defenit Hitlary win.

You also managed to neglect that his plan is less tax then what you pay now.

Plus his plan to not only repeal Obama's executive orders but Obamacare as well. Wether this can be done or not we'll have to see. Guaranteed Pinocchio's plan is higher taxation and rest status quo.
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Yep. Trump had a slight bump in the polls after the DNC email story broke, but he's fallen pretty far since then. The last time the split in polling was as bad as it is now was back in April.
You don't seriously believe the media's polls do you?

I mean seriously, if Trump was triple digits ahead, they would report it as neck and neck or even given Hillary an edge...all in hopes that those that do support Trump will think its useless and not even vote at all.
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Ok, what do you propose to do then now? If you anti trumpers some how manage to kick him out, that'll be a defenit Hitlary win.

You also managed to neglect that his plan is less tax then what you pay now.

Plus his plan to not only repeal Obama's executive orders but Obamacare as well. Wether this can be done or not we'll have to see. Guaranteed Pinocchio's plan is higher taxation and rest status quo.
The majority of the electorate doesn't care about anyone's "plans". They don't read them and they don't understand them even if they do.

The electorate is spoon-fed what the media wants them to know about the candidates, and unfortunately for Trump, he offers plenty of fodder for the media to feed to the mass to make him appear unfit to lead our country. If he loses, he'll only have himself to blame.
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You don't seriously believe the media's polls do you?

I mean seriously, if Trump was triple digits ahead, they would report it as neck and neck or even given Hillary an edge...all in hopes that those that do support Trump will think its useless and not even vote at all.
2 weeks ago, they didn't shy away from reporting that he was in the lead.

Hell, Hank self-banned himself as a result of those polls.
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Why does anyone believe ONE SINGLE WORD that any political candidate says?
/thread. I dont pay attention to tax plans unless they start talking about abolishing tax codes and closing down 3 letter agencies to collect them. Its all diversionary smoke in mirrors, if they are reducing taxes in one area, they will fuck you harder in another.
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2 weeks ago, they didn't shy away from reporting that he was in the lead.

Hell, Hank self-banned himself as a result of those polls.
just wait till it gets within a couple of weeks, they are going to report that Trump has a slight advantage or is even with Hill-dog to energize the Dem voter base to get out and vote. if they keep reporting that Hilary is leading by 10 points, they run the risk of Dems staying home.

It happens each time. just wait for it, its scripted to perfection.
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/thread. I dont pay attention to tax plans unless they start talking about abolishing tax codes and closing down 3 letter agencies to collect them. Its all diversionary smoke in mirrors, if they are reducing taxes in one area, they will fuck you harder in another.
So much truth here.^ Flat tax or get the lube. It's so fucked up no matter how you twist it. However it does create jobs for blood suckers.
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just wait till it gets within a couple of weeks, they are going to report that Trump has a slight advantage or is even with Hill-dog to energize the Dem voter base to get out and vote. if they keep reporting that Hilary is leading by 10 points, they run the risk of Dems staying home.

It happens each time. just wait for it, its scripted to perfection.
Yep, even Carville said the polls were bullshit last week. He showed how they were grossly over sampling Democrats and urged them to stop because it would lead to lower Dem turnout if they thought it was in the bag.

Some pols were over sampling by 10-12% When BO was running, Dem turnout was (I think) around 8% over Republican.

It wont be anywhere near that for Her. They are already photoshopping people into her rallys to make them look bigger. They never had to resort to that when BO was running, he was packing places and setting up overflow seats.

Which is exactly what Trump is doing these days.
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2 weeks ago, they didn't shy away from reporting that he was in the lead.

Hell, Hank self-banned himself as a result of those polls.
That he had a "slight" lead.

They are NEVER going to report the real numbers unless they can get them where they want or at least going in the direction they want.

Only a fool would believe anything the damn media reports on "polls"
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He wants to eliminate the Death Tax.. If that's the only change he wants as far as taxes then I would vote for him.. There is no more American ideal than working for all your life for your kids to have when your gone. You pay taxes on it the first time and there should be no reason for the .gov to come in and take a big chunk when you die.
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Only a fool would believe anything the damn media reports on "polls"
So we agree then; Trump is a "fool". He talks about how well he is doing in the polls every time he speaks.
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Polls are meaningless, are made up on the spot, manipulated, and are just used to push an agenda.

Trump should not speak of any poll numbers. Re-affirms fake science.
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Regardless of what he says, or congress, it's hard ton pass one without the other.

Maybe if he (trump) got behind the "better way" tax plan proposed by many caucuses, and Kevin Brady fronts for, there would/will be unity. If anything, that's the better, tested (in theory of course) plan
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So we agree then; Trump is a "fool". He talks about how well he is doing in the polls every time he speaks.
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Trump should not speak of any poll numbers. Re-affirms fake science.


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You and your fellow Trumpkins picked the only candidate who could possibly lose to Hillary. Congratulations.
Quit assuming things you ignorant fuck.

Or just continue on with your butthurt rage.
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@Terrys_85_Toy and @Mikel are the two guys on the high school baseball/football team that got hurt half way through the season and then spent the rest of the season rooting for the team to lose so they can claim they would have won if they had been in there, or in this situation, if their guy had been in there.
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You and your fellow Trumpkins picked the only candidate who could possibly lose to Hillary. Congratulations.
You think any of the other candidates could have beaten hillary? How do you figure that? They couldn't even beat trump.
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Don't put the word 'Plan' in any sentence that also includes 'Trump', that insults EVERYONE. I may or may not vote for him, but let's be real.

If a politician got rid of death/inheritance tax as well as property tax and replaced it with a flat sales tax eliminating 95% of the IRS, I would vote for them later today.

Go ahead, tax everything I buy at 35% or less, or more.

Let me buy what I want, keep my money, give my money away, get donations, work for a paycheck, work for cash. Buy a home and actually own it. EVERYBODY pays the flat sales tax, rich, poor, corporations, no more tax exempt anybody.
It would broaden the tax base and would be fair for everybody. With everybody paying tax including the ultra wealthy and the undocumented, the flat rate would probably be far less than expected to match the federal and state budgets. 35% might be a good starting point, but I bet it would be less after adjustment.

Do that and I'd probably overlook your other shortcomings and blindly vote for you.

It may be overly simplistic but we've got to start again somewhere.
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You think any of the other candidates could have beaten hillary? How do you figure that?
To name a mediocre candidate - Romney would have eviscerated Hillary.

He lost by a couple of points to the rock star of candidates, adored and worshiped by many, including the media.

Hillary... She's an awful campaigner, mortally wounded by a series of scandals that refuse to go away. Most in her own party don't even like her and the media is nowhere as forgiving with her as they were with the messiah.

And yet Trump is losing to her by a considerable margin.


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Trump was a professional celebrity in a popularity contest against boring politicians. He was given three billion dollars of free air time, while the rest of the candidates got zilch. And most important of all... Now we know that the "right" is every bit as vulnerable to an Obama phenomena as the left. How we laughed at the Obamabots in 2008... How little did we know...
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