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Old 12-16-2016, 11:39 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Uhhh, do population, demographics, and size of the country not register with you? Why so blind?
give it some time. especially when you can draw direct correlation between illegal immigration and crime rates.
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Because countries that have social systems and healthcare in place have an order of magnitude less crime obviously means that it does work. Why so blind?

300 people got murdered in Germany this year.

1800 in California alone...
If you and dumbassage think its so fucking great in another country and this country is so fucked up and the people are so blind to the great socialist ways, why the fuck are you not living there?

Surely its not because you can't find awesome employment or insurance in that great utopia over there...so what the fuck...just take your whiny ass on over there.

You can then post on pirate just how fucking awesome it is where you live...
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Old 12-16-2016, 11:57 AM   #153 (permalink)
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A broken leg. A night in a hospital, one xray, some cast material. 15 minutes total with a doctor.

What does this cost?
What is the actual cost?
Whats the margin here?
How new was the hospitals equipment? How often are the rooms cleaned? How many people were on staff to check the person over night and what equipment did they use? Besides Dr's normally only collect 70% of what they bill. 30% is a write off. So start by lopping 30% off the bill, then add the costs up.

The margin is not that high. Much less than retail merchandise. At a store 50% margin is normal.. The store gets $5 of your $10 item. Ban stores and store owners!
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Old 12-16-2016, 12:02 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Well, the free capitalist society only works for a small percentage, now doesn't it? Or globally speaking, it doesn't work at all.
LOL. The middle class is a small percentage? Liberal programs are the reason the middle class is struggling.... you are requiring them to pay for bull shit programs.
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Old 12-16-2016, 12:06 PM   #155 (permalink)
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How new was the hospitals equipment? How often are the rooms cleaned? How many people were on staff to check the person over night and what equipment did they use? Besides Dr's normally only collect 70% of what they bill. 30% is a write off. So start by lopping 30% off the bill, then add the costs up.

The margin is not that high. Much less than retail merchandise. At a store 50% margin is normal.. The store gets $5 of your $10 item. Ban stores and store owners!
You're not mentioning that they will literally take care of anyone who shows up, because they have to. That's how the illegals do it anyway. Show up, get everybody checked out and then when it's time for the bill, "we no have dinero".

We already live in a socialist country. Anyone who works has their money redistributed to those who choose not to. People in the hood drive nicer vehicles than I do and probably have bigger TVs too.
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Old 12-16-2016, 12:11 PM   #156 (permalink)
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You're not mentioning that they will literally take care of anyone who shows up, because they have to. That's how the illegals do it anyway. Show up, get everybody checked out and then when it's time for the bill, "we no have dinero".

We already live in a socialist country. Anyone who works has their money redistributed to those who choose not to. People in the hood drive nicer vehicles than I do and probably have bigger TVs too.
Exactly!!! Bobby Thief isn't robbing because his kid is sick. If his kid is sick, he takes him to the ER, get the exact same treatment we pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for, signs some paperwork, and leaves....without spending a penny. That's what ACA fans don't understand, it did NOTHING to help poor people, it just allowed Screwy and people like him to take advantage of the system. The poor are already covered or, as stated above, simply don't pay. Illegals are undocumented, they have absolutely nothing to lose going to the ER because they don't even exist.
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Old 12-16-2016, 12:13 PM   #157 (permalink)
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300 people got murdered in Germany this year.

1800 in California alone...
I did some quick searching that maybe is incorrect?

There are over 80 million people in Germany.
Only an estimated 200,000-300,000 are black.
Is it a coincidence that their crime rate is much lower?
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Old 12-16-2016, 12:44 PM   #158 (permalink)
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Why do people rob other people? Just "because"?
Drug money mainly. I've yet to hear someone robbing another person to pay for healthcare bills. What fawking reality do you live in anyway?
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Drug money mainly. I've yet to hear someone robbing another person to pay for healthcare bills. What fawking reality do you live in anyway?
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Old 12-16-2016, 12:52 PM   #160 (permalink)
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Improved international relationships.
When GW was in office, I couldn't walk into a bar in Europe and even speak for fear or being labeled as American. Under Obama, it was welcomed and encouraged. And now, with Trump, I'll have to go back to keeping my mouth shut out of shame and embarrassment.

If you're so fucking embarrassed of your nationality, I will GLADLY contribute towards a ONE-WAY ticket to the country of your choice.
Feel free to get the fuck out, and until then, start refusing the benefits and advantages afforded to you by this 'source of your embarrassment' nation.


Price of gasoline.

Made the country (and its people) something the world could look up to.
With Trumpleskin, that is no longer the case.

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Simply because there is no alternative but the guy three streets down who just got a 55" tv and keeps bragging about it.

You actually think stupid can plan a heist or even figure out that bigger takings are across town? You think they can actually figure something like that out?

Puleese have you ever lived in a bad area? Shit stays "in the hood". Robbing people is a part if that culture.
Serious question; Do you two have a machine that breathes for you? There's no way you two have enough active brain tissue to operate lungs.

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If you and dumbassage think its so fucking great in another country and this country is so fucked up and the people are so blind to the great socialist ways, why the fuck are you not living there?

Surely its not because you can't find awesome employment or insurance in that great utopia over there...so what the fuck...just take your whiny ass on over there.

You can then post on pirate just how fucking awesome it is where you live...
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Drug money mainly. I've yet to hear someone robbing another person to pay for healthcare bills. What fawking delusion do you live in anyway?
FTFY.
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If you and dumbassage think its so fucking great in another country and this country is so fucked up and the people are so blind to the great socialist ways, why the fuck are you not living there?

Surely its not because you can't find awesome employment or insurance in that great utopia over there...so what the fuck...just take your whiny ass on over there.

You can then post on pirate just how fucking awesome it is where you live...
That makes too much sense and basically to lazy. They're rather try and fuck this country up worse than they already have.

They've chased all the good decent jobs out of this country that had good health insurance benefits. Now you're left with mostly shitty jobs that don't offer it or it's a shitty program.

Healthcare cost are going up because people can't afford to pay the cost of getting it and walk out. To top it off, an unhealthy society isn't good either. Not to mention too many people are just too fawking fat causing problems with their own health straining the system.
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This thread is making it easy to tell who's going to be the "Blame Obama" counterpart to the "Blame Bush" crowd.
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Naw. If "he" has a roof over his head, food, medicine and a 55" tv and some time for a small "side job" for drug money, "he" won't do shit.
Wouldn't banning 55" tv's solve the problem? Seems simple enough, then we can all get back getting along.
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Exactly!!! Bobby Thief isn't robbing because his kid is sick. If his kid is sick, he takes him to the ER, get the exact same treatment we pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for, signs some paperwork, and leaves....without spending a penny. That's what ACA fans don't understand, it did NOTHING to help poor people, it just allowed Screwy and people like him to take advantage of the system. The poor are already covered or, as stated above, simply don't pay. Illegals are undocumented, they have absolutely nothing to lose going to the ER because they don't even exist.
Even more so, the ACA didn't do dick. It allowed some who could not afford insurance to obtain it. Subsidized or not. These people who could not afford premiums now have to cough up 6, 8, 12K deductibles. They cannot do that so its just more cost shifting back to providers. Smoke and mirrors.
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Ok this circle jerk has jumped the tracks.
So what has Obama achieved in the past 8 years?

Well Jimmy Carter is now not necessarily the worst president we have had. So he as a 1/2 African American man has extended his hand in good faith and helped a white man. That's leading by example in race relations


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Bush Obama Clinton even possible Trump are all greedy progressives. Time will tell if Trump is only in it for himself like the last 28 years of presidents.

Of course he is going to make money off it. Look at what the clintons charge for speaking. Look at what expresidents make off book deals. It's not about how they make money to me. It's about if they help the average working class American have the opportunity to make money.

If you want to watch the unemployment numbers and the not in the work force numbers just watch the debt clock. It's all on there.


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He kept The People's Cube fully stocked with agitprop!

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You're right - the rocket sled back to Kenya can't get this charlatan shiiteheel out of D.C. fast ENOUGH!
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You're right - the rocket sled back to Kenya can't get this charlatan shiiteheel out of D.C. fast ENOUGH!


Kenya doesn't want him his brother has implied that enough times. I guess California is going to be stuck with him. I feel for everyone north of the Bay Area.

I guess this might be a great catalyst for Jefferson State


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I've been pretty happy with Wheeler in the FCC.. I mean Obama himself hasn't really done much, but he appointed Wheeler, and I like what he's done for the most part.
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It should cost 6-9% of your paycheck in a working system. Is that cheaper or more expensive?
Before the ACA it was costing us just over 6% (or about $600 a month) out of pocket for excellent coverage for the 4 of us, with all preventative care covered fully and a $2500 max out of pocket total for the family. My wife's employer was picking up the balance (employer contribution of about $1000 a month) so all in about 16% of our income if we had to pay it all ourselves.

Post ACA passage it's a different story. We are now paying $1200 a month out of pocket (about 12% of our income) and her employer is picking up an additional $1500 a month for a total of 27% of our income if we had to pay it all. For this increase, we now have a copay on preventative care, and an annual max out of pocket of $10000 for the family. In short, a lot more money for a lot less care.
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Not sure, but there sure are alot of lefties outing themselves lately or I haven't been paying enough attention.

That's what no one seems to comprehend here: if you consider more people votes for HRC than DJT, that means it is likely PBB consists of 50% HRC supporters.
Granted, you can say the demo here is a little more conservative given the audience, but web-wheeling != Conservative.

The problem is that they're a quiet bunch.
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That's what no one seems to comprehend here: if you consider more people votes for HRC than DJT, that means it is likely PBB consists of 50% HRC supporters.
Granted, you can say the demo here is a little more conservative given the audience, but web-wheeling != Conservative.

The problem is that they're a quiet bunch.
By that reasoning, 50% of democratic underground is republican, 13% of the KKK is black, and the black panthers party is 63% white.


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That's what no one seems to comprehend here: if you consider more people votes for HRC than DJT, that means it is likely PBB consists of 50% HRC supporters.
Granted, you can say the demo here is a little more conservative given the audience, but web-wheeling != Conservative.

The problem is that they're a quiet bunch.
They might be a "quiet bunch" on pirate, because they know if they start spewing their bullshit they'll get bitch-slapped.

Out in the real world where the conservatives have jobs and the liberals go to protests, the libs are the loud squeaky wheels spewing their shit into their echo chamber. That's how we blindsided you fuck-sticks and got Trump elected... you thought you had it in the bag and 99% of everyone agreed with your bullshit liberal views, when in fact most people are sick and tired of them.
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