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Old 05-16-2017, 10:39 PM   #26 (permalink)
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To the extent it plus other misc deductions and job expenses exceed 2% of AGI. Learned that a couple decades ago after paying a CPA to do my taxes and wasn't able to benifit from a deduction the next year.
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For a 137 years this country excelled with the greatest economy, freedom, and largest middle class in the history of the planet and managed to pay for a Federal government, military, and infrastructure with zero Federal income tax.
and compare expenditures then vs now before you gripe about income
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While driving on roads that taxes paid for, enjoying your fed, state, local parks that your taxes pay for, the paramedics that drag you to the hospital when you have choked on a dick, paid for by taxes. The right to a jury trial? Taxes pay for that.

I used to think ths same way. Except the choking on dicks part. I have big teeth and have yet to have anybody try.
Everytime we buy fuel we pay for the roads. Fuckers don't use the money for the roads.

I'm sure those federal s & l lands would be just fine if the gov let the people take care of them on a volunteer basis.

Last I checked insurance pays for Ambo rides.

If taxes pay for the courts why are there so many people paying court costs?
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So school me on this, as someone who is masochistic enough that he doesn't mind doing his own taxes and wringing every cent out of every deduction that he can, including having run a personal business and a 501(c)(7) organization, what specifically has an accountant done for you that's made it worth it?


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And yet, you aren't paying you're "Fair Share".
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So school me on this, as someone who is masochistic enough that he doesn't mind doing his own taxes and wringing every cent out of every deduction that he can, including having run a personal business and a 501(c)(7) organization, what specifically has an accountant done for you that's made it worth it?


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Kept the peace between the wife and I since we didn't have any arguments over what should be filed where as she tries to understand the instructions on the forms. That alone made the CPA route worth it.

Couple bucks to keep the wife happy? I'm happy to pay it.
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So school me on this, as someone who is masochistic enough that he doesn't mind doing his own taxes and wringing every cent out of every deduction that he can, including having run a personal business and a 501(c)(7) organization, what specifically has an accountant done for you that's made it worth it?


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The fact that he is much less likely to get audited. If done by a cpa, the IRS is more likely to give him a pass because they know the cpa knows the codes.
Nephew used to do his own taxes on his fencing business every year. Got audited every year. Went to a cpa. Crickets from the irs.
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Everytime we buy fuel we pay for the roads. Fuckers don't use the money for the roads.

I'm sure those federal s & l lands would be just fine if the gov let the people take care of them on a volunteer basis.

Last I checked insurance pays for Ambo rides.

If taxes pay for the courts why are there so many people paying court costs?
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Suddenly, I feel better about my 51 page tax return.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:57 AM   #35 (permalink)
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My wife and I have simple returns since we're employees and not owners. Mortgage and investments only, pretty decent salary. I use a guy at H&R Block because he's a retired IRS agent and knows the max for all deductions and "loopholes".

He's retiring fully next year so we'll be looking for a CPA. Do you find CPAs will risk pushing the limits filing taxes or no? I don't know what to look for in a quality CPA. My folks used to get hit hard on taxes using a CPA, they switched to the same H&R guy I use and now they get back or at least break even.
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send me your social security number and bank account info. i got a cousin across seas who is really good at figuring out this kinda thing.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:50 AM   #38 (permalink)
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My wife and I have simple returns since we're employees and not owners. Mortgage and investments only, pretty decent salary. I use a guy at H&R Block because he's a retired IRS agent and knows the max for all deductions and "loopholes".



He's retiring fully next year so we'll be looking for a CPA. Do you find CPAs will risk pushing the limits filing taxes or no? I don't know what to look for in a quality CPA. My folks used to get hit hard on taxes using a CPA, they switched to the same H&R guy I use and now they get back or at least break even.


Find an enrolled agent if you can. I have a great tax person from Nor Cal and a local friend who is an older enrolled agent. I would use him except my tax person is family so it's free and she's awesome.


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Old 05-17-2017, 12:44 PM   #39 (permalink)
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While driving on roads that taxes paid for, enjoying your fed, state, local parks that your taxes pay for, the paramedics that drag you to the hospital when you have choked on a dick, paid for by taxes. The right to a jury trial? Taxes pay for that.

I used to think ths same way. Except the choking on dicks part. I have big teeth and have yet to have anybody try.
What's your point? That it's a crime to evade taxes?

We all know that. We also (probably) all know someone whose entire life is 'off the books'.
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So school me on this, as someone who is masochistic enough that he doesn't mind doing his own taxes and wringing every cent out of every deduction that he can, including having run a personal business and a 501(c)(7) organization, what specifically has an accountant done for you that's made it worth it?


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also when you get audited you can just have the CPA do all the talking to the IRS as a designated 3rd party and you don't have to spend extra time with it
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While driving on roads that taxes paid for, enjoying your fed, state, local parks that your taxes pay for, the paramedics that drag you to the hospital when you have choked on a dick, paid for by taxes. The right to a jury trial? Taxes pay for that.

I used to think ths same way. Except the choking on dicks part. I have big teeth and have yet to have anybody try.
None of that has to be paid for by a federal income tax. Nice disclaimer about choking on dicks. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
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None of that has to be paid for by a federal income tax. Nice disclaimer about choking on dicks. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Federal taxes can go toward roads. Especially on federal property. What pays for federal courts? Did they finally have enough court cases to pay for the building of courthouses? Public defenders can be paid by taxes from federal and state. Schools? Hehe US Mexico big ass fucking wall? The military that makes sure the fighting stays over seas.
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You should see what the federal taxes covered for bureau of land management. I was going to call it BLM. But just like the faggots took the rainbow, some faggots took BLM.
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Feds spend a LOT of money on local roads and bridges. I'm just guessing, but I bet 50% of NC road and bridge construction is funded by the feds. We still have a massive gas tax though.
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also when you get audited you can just have the CPA do all the talking to the IRS as a designated 3rd party and you don't have to spend extra time with it
Yawp... and because they're paid, the CPA gets to request the required documents ahead of time. No surprises.
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A CPA serves two very important purposes:

- To make sure you do not leave anything on the table.

- To make sure you do not do anything stupid that will put you in a jam.

If you have any complexity to your financial situation at all (and that goes beyond plain W2 income if you have 401Ks, investments, etc.) they are an investment that is well worth it.
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and compare expenditures then vs now before you gripe about income
Adjust for the devaluation in our currency thanks to the Fed Reserve system and I gladly will.
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also when you get audited you can just have the CPA do all the talking to the IRS as a designated 3rd party and you don't have to spend extra time with it


You can also have an enrolled agent tak for you regardless of if they did your taxes or not. But most will charge you the normal rate.


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You can also have the cpa say " i realize now with the evidence put in front of me, that the customer did not provide me accurate information ".
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CPA = Licensed by the state - has to have an accounting degree and take a huge exam on tax, accounting, business law, etc. Might be an expert on taxes, might be an expert on other business matters.

EA = Licensed by the IRS - has to take a three-part exam on taxes and practicing before the IRS. Should be an expert on tax - may or may not understand other business issues.

I'm both a CPA and an EA - I think people should carefully choose their professional help - a good practitioner is very valuable - but a bad one will cost you. Bad advice can get you out of penalties, but you'll still be on the hook for any tax owed.

A good CPA or EA will take care to help you take all the deductions you are entitled to, but will ensure that you don't cross the line. Their license is on the line and they won't generally sign a return with inappropriate numbers on it.
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