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Old 06-23-2017, 01:05 PM   #26 (permalink)
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And if we lived in a society that exalted homosexuality and only used heterosexuality for procreation, then homosexuals would thrive.

Evolution would still play a role - as some children do not die of cancer when exposed to the same man-made environment. Evolution still plays a part.


More interestingly, because this debate is pointless and boring: why haven't midgets revolted and taken over? They are far more efficient, use less resources (smaller houses, smaller cars, less fuel, less food), and they're hilarious when they walk around. I think it is a missed opportunity for evolution. Someone should write a letter.
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I don't think [most folks] understand how genetics works. There's recessive traits, polygenic traits, multiple allele traits etc., etc. Most traits aren't driven by simple dominance heredity. They're far more complicated and we're only beginning to understand many of them. That's without even getting into the whole nature vs. nurture debate.
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I don't think he understands how genetics works. There's recessive traits, polygenic traits, multiple allele traits etc., etc. Most traits aren't driven by simple dominance heredity. They're far more complicated and we're only beginning to understand many of them. That's without even getting into the whole nature vs. nurture debate.
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I totally concur .


What I've hi-lighted; goes for ALL of medical science.

In a word; 'We don't know shit.'
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In a word; 'We don't know shit.'
See, that's not quite it: We definitely know enough shit that people who don't know shit can get called on it when their shit is bullshit.

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See, that's not quite it: We definitely know enough shit that people who don't know shit can get called on it when their shit is bullshit.
That's some heavy shit you said there.
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More interestingly, because this debate is pointless and boring: why haven't midgets revolted and taken over? They are far more efficient, use less resources (smaller houses, smaller cars, less fuel, less food), and they're hilarious when they walk around. I think it is a missed opportunity for evolution. Someone should write a letter.
Many here already believe that Screwy can be quite revolting. Although personally I like the 'lil feller.
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Sad but true.


The need for eyeglasses is much more prevalent than in the past. Probably because all the near sighted Neanderthals got eaten by sabertooth cats they could not see.

Same with Peanut allergies.

Our modern society is altering "natural selection" Many of the things that should kill us, do not, currently. Some of this makes for weak genes or predisposition towards illnesses for the next generation.
You are half right. Our modern society is the result of natural selection, however. It does not alter natural selection. As we evolved, and developed technology, the value of being able to chuck a spear accurately and run fast became less important for survival. Other, non-physical traits (e.g., intelligence to make machines) became genetically relatively preferred in terms of survival and ability to get laid.
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You are half right. Our modern society is the result of natural selection, however. It does not alter natural selection. As we evolved, and developed technology, the value of being able to chuck a spear accurately and run fast became less important for survival. Other, non-physical traits (e.g., intelligence to make machines) became genetically relatively preferred in terms of survival and ability to get laid.
Absolutely! My brain has gotten me laid WAY more than my quite average brawn.
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It could be argued that's a natural way of population control and limited overpopulation of species. Homosexuality has been observed in a number of animals and not just among primates.
That's why there's more fags in San Francisco than Manteca. It's the over-population.

In a world of the smartest kid in the room being alpha dog, your definition of strength needs revisiting, OP.
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First off I'm not a bigot, I don't care who you want to be with. I'm not a religious man and believe if gay people want to marry and be a miserable as the rest, more power to you. That being said I heard and interesting theory today.

If being born gay is biological then by nature's laws you can not procreate. Being born gay is evolution's way of weeding out the weak. I heard this from a coworker. Maybe this has been discussed before, but it's the first time I've heard it.

So are cancer, birth defects, low sperm count, and being a fucking idiot (que Landslide). Evolution is supposed to keep these from reproducing, but it's not working.


Hence, PBB.
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So are cancer, birth defects, low sperm count, and being a fucking idiot (que Landslide). Evolution is supposed to keep these from reproducing, but it's not working.


Hence, PBB.
If we didn't have liberals pushing for more and more nanny laws maybe we could give natural selection a fighting chance.
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More interestingly, because this debate is pointless and boring: why haven't midgets revolted and taken over? They are far more efficient, use less resources (smaller houses, smaller cars, less fuel, less food), and they're hilarious when they walk around. I think it is a missed opportunity for evolution. Someone should write a letter.
Many here already believe that Screwy can be quite revolting. Although personally I like the 'lil feller.
what makes you think the midgets AREN'T taking over. It's just that it's an underground movement. We try to fly below the radar.

Half the folks you see on TV are shorter than 5'7". Troof!
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what makes you think the midgets AREN'T taking over. It's just that it's an underground movement. We try to fly below the radar.

Half the folks you see on TV are shorter than 5'7". Troof!
TRY to fly under the radar!? You have no choice..................

And troof regarding TV and movie stars and their tendency to be shorter. That's a function of the ratio of head size to body size.
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I'm not saying that chemical exposure doesn't play a role in cancer, hell it's a proven risk factor for many cancers. But, I don't think it plays much of a role in child cancers. Just not enough time for that exposure to create a majorly increased risk.

I think the "increase" in cancer is largely due to longer lifespans and better medicine. 100 years ago, that old man just got old and wasted away and died. Today, we realize that old man developed colon cancer.

Lots of factors involved in cancer from genetics to environmental risk factors to just plain old chance.
Cancer (colon notably), cataracts, iritis, some types of arthritis now have been genetically mapped. You have the genes for same and the probability is real good you will have the problem with or without environmental input...

Just a matter of time before Gattaca type genetic mapping and birth control for genetic reasons. Yet another bit of tinfoil fer the hat wearers...
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That's why there's more fags in San Francisco than Manteca. It's the over-population.

In a world of the smartest kid in the room being alpha dog, your definition of strength needs revisiting, OP.
You are a fucking moron you know that? Do you have any clue why SF has a central area and high population of LGBT?

Do a little history search before you pop off moron. It has to do with the US Navy removing anyone who was gay from its ranks and the bases in the area.
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Absolutely! My brain has gotten me laid WAY more than my quite average brawn.
Appearance will get you laid. Intelligence is being able to get rid of them, or yo-yo'ing them if you wish. You're going about this all wrong.
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YIt has to do with the US Navy removing anyone who was gay from its ranks and the bases in the area.
Truth? Elaborate please............
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Truth? Elaborate please............
There's truth to it in that the Navy really would boot known gays in port cities, but to single that out as THE reason for SF's thriving gay culture is grossly overstating it's impact. SF was already very well known for it's gay culture and if booting outed sailors was the primary cause of it, then wouldn't that be the case for virtually every other port city the Navy uses?
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Wait, the navy booted gays? How did they ever manage to crew a ship?
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Truth? Elaborate please............
This is a pretty good overview of the history of the castro and general LGBT culture in SF (a lot of this dates back to the days of the Stonewall riots in NY too)

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There's truth to it in that the Navy really would boot known gays in port cities, but to single that out as THE reason for SF's thriving gay culture is grossly overstating it's impact. SF was already very well known for it's gay culture and if booting outed sailors was the primary cause of it, then wouldn't that be the case for virtually every other port city the Navy uses?
For the most part, yep. Look at San Diego, L.A. , Seattle, SF, Portland. All have major 'gay' areas that came out of the 30-40's era "wash out" of both the navy and army. Areas that were underpriced, 'poor' areas, places where you could get apartments cheap and open up your own business without too much startup capital.
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