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Old 07-25-2017, 07:20 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Huge fan of this as a WO... I would not be where I am now without the military (working on my doctoral degree.)



Not sure if the street to seat WOFT is still open, but it could be. He will need to find a good recruiter in order to get the packet done. It is a ton of work and very very hard for a civilian to be accepted.



That being said, 4 years active duty for someone who doesn't know what he wants to do is a great opportunity to learn, grow and experience things that will make him more rounded. Choose a job he is interested in and will pay a decent salary post service and he will be set. If not maybe the years will help guide him and the Post 9/11 GI bill is great for paying for school, college/trade school.


The street to seat is still active according to the recruiter
Recruiter Says he's only done two street to seat WOFT and they both got in


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He will be tired of working outside and sitting in a cushy chair in an air conditioned building looks better and better
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That's a nice picture of some fellow union ironworkers and all but..... the op didn't say he was looking for pictures of people cutting with a torch......

And there isn't really a "card" that lets you go weld whatever. There is a different certification for each welding process. Ironworkers generally have 5 basic certifications that will allow them to do 50-75% of what's needed.
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He's a trades guy
No interest in a office job
But I told him when he gets my age
He will be tired of working outside and sitting in a cushy chair in an air conditioned building looks better and better
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That's the beautiful thing about being a lineman, at least within a utility. There's tons of management positions available that they usually progress into.
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That's the beautiful thing about being a lineman, at least within a utility. There's tons of management positions available that they usually progress into.


Bet you gotta have a college degree to move into cushy management jobs


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That's a nice picture of some fellow union ironworkers and all but..... the op didn't say he was looking for pictures of people cutting with a torch......

And there isn't really a "card" that lets you go weld whatever. There is a different certification for each welding process. Ironworkers generally have 5 basic certifications that will allow them to do 50-75% of what's needed.


But who wants to be an Iron Head?
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Getting burned out working 65-75 hour weeks and he's only 19???? Shit he wouldn't make it as a welder for long
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If he's interested in welding get him to watch videos on different materials, fillers, and processes. A good welder can teach him the mechanics in a day or two. I suggest learning a little stick first because if he starts with mig he won't want to take the time to learn stick.
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4 years active duty Army, and a 16 mo long associate degree from a trade school. I wouldn't really consider that a degree per se.
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Getting burned out working 65-75 hour weeks and he's only 19???? Shit he wouldn't make it as a welder for long


I been trying to tell him that every job, no matter what it is , gets old after a while

And that he ought to keep working where he's at
He's making about $1000 a week before taxes

That he could Live at home with us for another three years on the requirement that he save 90% of his paycheck

In three years he would have $100-150K in the bank

That would make a decent 20% down payment on a small half million dollar apartment complex and then he's not gonna have to work very hard ever again







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I wanna see him get a college degree, there are so many jobs that are not open to people who dont have degrees,
if you dont have a degree, the only way youre ever going to make any money is open your own business, cause youre not going to even get an interview for any good paying jobs.

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Find an engineering program at a local community college where he can take classes on this stuff. Programming, machining, welding, etc. Once he does a few years of classes, he might find something he really wants to focus on long term. Then get him in a specialized engineering program at a larger school and get that degree.

I got my BS in mechanical engineering, but I went on the basic track and mainly took all the required classes. I don't think it helped me much more than getting the degree and allowing me to get paid a lot more than I would have just going to a trade school. I think I could have learned more doing a trade, honestly. Now at 30 working for the govt, I'm making far more than people without degrees that have 25-30 years of experience.



If he goes to a 4 yr school, since the kid likes cars, get involved in Formula or Baja SAE from the get go. Find out who the faculty advisor is and go talk to him about joining up right away. I didn't get started in Baja until my senior year, but I learned they were recruiting from freshman year and I just never knew. This was the only class I really liked in college, enough to go to the shop and work until 1-2 in the morning after my normal class load multiple times a week. Our shop had a mill and lathe, a big fancy TIG/MIG welder, every auto type tool you can think of, a small dyno, and a few CNC machines, and this was 10 years ago. He'll work with sponsors from big auto/tool/mechanical companies that he can get an in for a job after school.

Search the schools around your area, most of them have a specific SAE website like this one: GT Motorsports Even some of the smaller schools like Georgia Southern and Kennesaw state have teams.

My suggestion is to go with Baja if he likes trucks and offroading, they build an offroad buggy type car. The team is much more relaxed than Formula, who builds a road race car. Formula is far more technical, which he may like, but I had a lot more fun on Baja than I would have on stuffy Formula. I also got to drive in the competition, which I never would have on FSAE because of my size.
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Gwinnett Tech has a pretty good welding program from what I hear, you can get a degree with professional certs too. There was a young kid from the FSJ world that went through it a couple years back and he seems to have done well for himself.

There is also Kubota in Gainesville and Catepillar in Athens/Bogart. Both hire a lot of welders. I know a retired military guy who got hired on at Kubota, he was a hobbiest welder and they trained him to their specifications.
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Steamfitters union in Pittsburgh is looking for 450 welders for the upcoming shell cracker plant, they will train.

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Gwinnett Tech has a pretty good welding program from what I hear, you can get a degree with professional certs too. There was a young kid from the FSJ world that went through it a couple years back and he seems to have done well for himself.

There is also Kubota in Gainesville and Catepillar in Athens/Bogart. Both hire a lot of welders. I know a retired military guy who got hired on at Kubota, he was a hobbiest welder and they trained him to their specifications.
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I been trying to tell him that every job, no matter what it is , gets old after a while

And that he ought to keep working where he's at
He's making about $1000 a week before taxes

That he could Live at home with us for another three years on the requirement that he save 90% of his paycheck

In three years he would have $100-150K in the bank

That would make a decent 20% down payment on a small half million dollar apartment complex and then he's not gonna have to work very hard ever again







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That is a pretty good plan honestly if you can support him through it what with living with y'all.

After a decade he'd have a pretty good idea of what he wants to do and pay somebody a small wage and free rent to maintain the place if he wants to be other places. HVAC is probably the best feeder industry to property management.

tell him to suck it up while he is young and can still function on 3 hours sleep see if you can convince him to put 90% of his paycheck into a separate account/investment account to sit until he is ready to make a single big buy to keep his pockets cool
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hell, he can always join the military later on in life if he wants, no need to do when 19 years old
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Working for Cat is a good career.
I bet the layoffs suck.
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That is a pretty good plan honestly if you can support him through it what with living with y'all.



After a decade he'd have a pretty good idea of what he wants to do and pay somebody a small wage and free rent to maintain the place if he wants to be other places. HVAC is probably the best feeder industry to property management.



tell him to suck it up while he is young and can still function on 3 hours sleep see if you can convince him to put 90% of his paycheck into a separate account/investment account to sit until he is ready to make a single big buy to keep his pockets cool


He's a good kid and I kinda like having him around

Don't mind paying for his groceries and cell phone (was paying for that at college ) if he will save 90% of his paycheck for a down payment on an apartment complex or something


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if he will save 90% of his paycheck for a down payment on an apartment complex or something

Damn, gonna make him buy the whole complex?
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I think the Jody guy from weldingtipsandtricks on youtube is based out of Atlanta. Not sure if he works with apprentices but that would be a hell of a guy to learn from.
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There is also Kubota in Gainesville and Catepillar in Athens/Bogart.
Cat is in Athens Herb.

It was in Bogart, but the assholes at Cat decided they liked an Athens address better. They had it changed to Athens which changed my address(and that of my businesses) from Bogart to Watkinsville. Needless to say, Cat can suck my long fat cock.

Fuck Cat and their overpriced yellow shit.

I'll stick with overpriced orange shit from now on. Looks much cooler too.
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Damn, gonna make him buy the whole complex?


Yes


Be the landlord
Not the renter

Already found a 8 house package for $575k that grosses $72K and would clear $28k a year after Maint , taxes, payment , and 8% of the net for capital improvements

Just needs $60-60K for a 10% down payment
20% down is better to avoid PMI



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Cat is in Athens Herb.



It was in Bogart, but the assholes at Cat decided they liked an Athens address better. They had it changed to Athens which changed my address(and that of my businesses) from Bogart to Watkinsville. Needless to say, Cat can suck my long fat cock.



Fuck Cat and their overpriced yellow shit.



I'll stick with overpriced orange shit from now on. Looks much cooler too.


Same thing in Smyrna / Marietta near Cumberland mall Galleria

It's miles outside of the city of Atlanta in Cobb county but they have an Atlanta address so all the businesses there will have an "Atlanta " mail ok address




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