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Old 08-13-2017, 06:39 AM   #26 (permalink)
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We honor the heroic dead and to tear down their monuments or move them to be hidden in shame dishonors their memory and their struggle to keep what they saw as their rights. Honor our fallen and perhaps learn from their mistakes, did not deny the sacrifices they made just because some liberal faggot snowflakes think the idea is distasteful.
Hmmm... not disagreeing with you, but a question: Should the Germans have kept more of their Nazi monuments?
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Next thing you know, the idiot leftest will want to take down all of the war memorials because war is offensive.

We have a major culture problem in this country and its only going to get worse.
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Umm, you do know Auschwitz and Dachau are tourist attractions right, as well as the eagles nest and countless other Nazi locatiins.


And Virginia has made memorial parks out of Manassas, Fredricksburg, Richmond, Cedar Creek, and Petersburg battlefields, as well as the Appomattox Court House.

And just how many statues and parks honoring Hitler, Göring, and Himmler are there?
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Interesting read on how the Germans are struggling with Nazi memorials:

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Euro...s-of-the-Reich
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Hmmm... not disagreeing with you, but a question: Should the Germans have kept more of their Nazi monuments?
What in the fuck kind of drugs are you on anyway? Comparing nazis to the south is complete bullshit. Typlical democrap hyerboyle as usual.

Show me the death camps with the ovens in the south where all the black folk were rounded up and exterminated.

You're such a pos bitch.
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And Virginia has made memorial parks out of Manassas, Fredricksburg, Richmond, Cedar Creek, and Petersburg battlefields, as well as the Appomattox Court House.

And just how many statues and parks honoring Hitler, Göring, and Himmler are there?
Again, what does the two have to do with each other?

The civil war was not about slavery, that came later in the war.
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It's pretty fucking dumb. I read an article the other day where some place changed the name of a couple schools that were named after a guy called Lynch.

Seriously, sticking your head in the sand and pretending shit never happened doesn't make it go away. This SJW cultural cleansing needs to stop. Every race, country, and continent have some down and dirty stuff that happened over the years and we all need to remember how and why it happened, not ignore it.


Yep, another fine Oregon dumbshittery . I think you pretty much have to be a evil racist retard to draw the conclusion that title "Lynch" is for hanging minorities rather than recognizing and honoring the donors that gave the schools the land they sit on.

Fucking hate liberal logic. The fucking dumbest people in our culture are teaching and running shit up here. Absolutely mind blowing.
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Again, what does the two have to do with each other?



The civil war was not about slavery, that came later in the war.


I wasn't the one to make the comparison between the two, my point was drawing a comparison between Auschwitz and other concentration camp memorials and confederate officer/leader statues was dumb.
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Would that include black folk?
Considering that black people around here are proud of the south and the confederate flag just as much as anyone else, yes.

If you have never seen a black guy in a 4x4 truck pull up at the gas station and buy a sleeve of Skoal, thats not my fault.

But what I want to know is, what does race have to do with this anyways?? The war was not fought over slavery, as much as you want to believe that it was.
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Considering that black people around here are proud of the south and the confederate flag just as much as anyone else, yes.
That's what I wanted to know.

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But what I want to know is, what does race have to do with this anyways?? The war was not fought over slavery, as much as you want to believe that it was.
Um, WW2 wasn't fought over killing Jews either.
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The civil war wasn't about slavery contrary to what the 's think.

It was about states' rights.

Not that any bleeding heart liberal douche rocket is smart enough to understand that because they've been too busy altering history books to fit the narrative they want it to fit.
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The civil war wasn't about slavery contrary to what the 's think.

It was about states' rights.

Not that any bleeding heart liberal douche rocket is smart enough to understand that because they've been too busy altering history books to fit the narrative they want it to fit.
Slavery, indirectly. State's rights to preserve an economic system that depended on cheap labor.

Just like today where the is a dependence on cheap immigrant labor (legal and illegal).

It has been a sin to be white for some time now, and with the latest affronts on the concept of free speech it is no wonder that fringe, ultra-radical white power people are feeling their oats. It's wrong (the hate thing - white, black, brown, red, yellow) but predictable as here in this country we tend to let the pendulum swing too way far and then we are flabbergasted when it swings back the other way.
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...wonder how black folks (normal ones) who live in the South feel about it.

BRING IT.

I am not black but, I have spent my whole life in the South. Rural blacks seem to have little concern for Confederate monuments. They seem content to accept that history for what it was.

City folks here (mostly white) seem to show the most concern ov]]er these monuments.

I think the confederate flag itself is a little different than the monuments. I personally do not care a whole lot about the flag being celebrated here, its mostly a bunch of white trash who seem really concerned about it. It certainly is abused for reasons other than heritage.

Whites and blacks here seem to get much better than the national news tries to make out. I find our relationship here much more friendly than I do when I spend time in LA or DC.

Just to note, I am a first generation American. My perspective may differ.

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Semi spinoff from the Charlotteville thread. Might as well discuss taking down Confederate monuments, since we need something to bitch about anyway.

For the record, I'm against taking most of these monuments down. I do believe, however, a set of "tourist boards" might be in order, with opportunities to round out the viewpoint.

Practically speaking, I got no dog in this fight. I'm a Californian, so live in a land that doesn't have much American history before 1848.

Now, I can somewhat see (being the good liberal I am) how one could compare the destruction of Confederate Monuments to destroying those of the Nazis.

But that's a wasted opportunity when you could do something like this:

The Anne Frank House: Opening hours, prices, location

Judging by the line there, you could turn those dusty old relics into major tourist attractions.


...wonder how black folks (normal ones) who live in the South feel about it.

BRING IT.

All joking aside. The one reason I start to hate the left (not disagree, hate) is the need to lie and change history. I can't stand the bullshit that is spread about slavery, the south, Lincoln, America. All of it. The Indians, how we formed. I get that there is a genuine disagreement about policy, but needing to lie about history to make your point is disgusting and evil. I want all history preserved, taught, and respected whether it is good or awful. In order to get true history you have to find it on your own. Schools teach absolute fiction.
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That was a federal policy instituted by an executive order signed by FDR.


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I am not black but, I have spent my whole life in the South. Rural blacks seem to have little concern for Confederate monuments. They seem content to accept that history for what it was.

City folks here (mostly white) seem to show the most concern ov]]er these monuments.

I think the confederate flag itself is a little different than the monuments. I personally do not care a whole lot about the flag being celebrated here, its mostly a bunch of white trash who seem really concerned about it. It certainly is abused for reasons other than heritage.

Whites and blacks here seem to get much better than the national news tries to make out. I find our relationship here much more friendly than I do when I spend time in LA or DC.

Just to note, I am a first generation American. My perspective may differ.
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Meh, my only agenda was provoking discussion. Read what you want into that.
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Meh, my only agenda was provoking discussion.
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All joking aside. The one reason I start to hate the left (not disagree, hate) is the need to lie and change history. I can't stand the bullshit that is spread about slavery, the south, Lincoln, America. All of it. The Indians, how we formed. I get that there is a genuine disagreement about policy, but needing to lie about history to make your point is disgusting and evil. I want all history preserved, taught, and respected whether it is good or awful. In order to get true history you have to find it on your own. Schools teach absolute fiction.
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Umm, you do know Auschwitz and Dachau are tourist attractions right, as well as the eagles nest and countless other Nazi locatiins.
Tourists only think these are tourists "attractions". They are most certainly not.

They are memorials / monuments with a warning character. The German word doesn't really exist in englisch. "Mahnmal"

Mahn (Warn, like a cop would "warn" you) Mal (monuments)


The approximation would be: "Warnument"
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What in the fuck kind of drugs are you on anyway? Comparing nazis to the south is complete bullshit. Typlical democrap hyerboyle as usual.

Show me the death camps with the ovens in the south where all the INDIAN folk were rounded up and exterminated.
Trail of Tears... 1838. The Cherokee were all over the South. They were pretty much driven to extinction. I think well over 3/4 died.

Andrew Jackson - Indian Removal Act.

But weird, I don't see any monuments to recognize them besides Cherokee NC they were granted some land back and have a casino.
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Trail of Tears... 1838. The Cherokee were all over the South. They were pretty much driven to extinction. I think well over 3/4 died.

Andrew Jackson - Indian Removal Act.

But weird, I don't see any monuments to recognize them besides Cherokee NC they were granted some land back and have a casino.
Indians are too far removed from public education / indoctrination / propaganda for anyone to care about or get triggered over.

But you could put up a statue. I guarantee you will get air time.
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