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Old 09-11-2017, 07:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2017 Chevy truck fuel mileage diesel versus gas three-quarter ton

2017 Chevy truck fuel mileage diesel versus gas three-quarter ton

Looking at finally getting a new truck this spring. Trying to figure out the cost difference between gas and diesel being offset by fuel mileage and fuel cost. Reason being is I do pest-control so I'm constantly driving all day long every day from house to house so there might be a chance to fuel difference could pay off in a couple years. Plus all in my jeep in my boat on the weekends.

Does anybody have a 2017 or 18 three-quarter ton gas or diesel and what kind of real fuel mileage are you getting?
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I track my mileage here: Fuelly - Track and Compare your MPG

So do lots of other people. You can go and look at what they get. Why are you getting a 3/4 ton? Seems retarded for what you are doing with it.
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At $2.60/gallon for both, with a diesel getting 15 mpg and a gas getting 10 mpg, you'd save $8,600 in fuel costs over 100,000 miles, which is about what the diesel option cost last time I checked a few years ago.

DEF, oil changes and fuel filters will cost more, and any repairs will cost WAY more. The Duramax is still pretty bulletproof to my knowledge though, the 06-07 were basically perfect.

I don't know that the diesel will get any better mileage around town, they typically only do if you're cruising where you can keep the turbo under a couple pounds of boost. I believe it's also not great for the light duty diesels to sit and idle if that matters in your case.

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Look at half tons. They all have higher ratings did then 3/4 tons of 10 years ago. Plus they are cheaper to buy, maintain, get better mpg, and drive nicer.
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If you can take the DPF off and do an EGR delete they get better millage.


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Look at half tons. They all have higher ratings did then 3/4 tons of 10 years ago. Plus they are cheaper to buy, maintain, get better mpg, and drive nicer.
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Look at half tons. They all have higher ratings did then 3/4 tons of 10 years ago. Plus they are cheaper to buy, maintain, get better mpg, and drive nicer.
Another vote for this. I have a 17 Sierra with 6.2/ 8 speed and it gets 16-17 around town and 23 at 70 mph on the highway consistently. All hand calculated mileage, when towing my JKU on a Buggy hauler it drops to 10-11. Can tow 11k pounds with max tow package.
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We have a small fleet of Duramax's at work (I think we're at 10). This isn't a bash on GM products, just that's what my sample of current trucks is.

They get sold off at ~125k miles due to repair costs. The costs are completely related to the engine/emissions. Always urea tanks, fuel injectors, head gaskets and EGR valves.

The trucks are hooked to 4-8klb trailers 90% of their life and driven by people who know if it breaks, it's getting fixed by somebody else or they're getting a newer truck. Trucks are usually 5-7 years old when they're sold off/traded in.
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I track my mileage here: Fuelly - Track and Compare your MPG

So do lots of other people. You can go and look at what they get. Why are you getting a 3/4 ton? Seems retarded for what you are doing with it.
Snow plowing and hauling a sander.
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Snow plowing and hauling a sander.
Would have been good to know in the initial post.

In that case, buy a WT truck with gasser. The truck will be destroyed long before the diesel would ever pay for itself.
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Buying a new truck is not economical at all, so that's your first problem.

Buying a diesel pickup for "economy" stopped being a thing in about 2000-2003 when the price of diesel became based on BTUs (i.e. more than gas), so that's strike two.

When they EGR'd, DPF'd, and urea'd everything they really screwed them up. Poor mileage, more maintenance and higher running costs.

So the answer you didn't want is to not buy a new truck. Buy a used gasser.
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For what you need, stay away from the diesels. Total cost of ownership will favor the gas engines. Especially if you live where you can't ditch the diesel emissions junk.
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I vote for gas 3/4 ton. Better to have and not need than need and not have.
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Short trips and shutdowns are hell on new diesel emissions.


No complaints with my 6.0. I see 12 on regular and 9 on e85 doing my 20 mile a day round trip to/from work.
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No complaints with my 6.0. I see 12 on regular and 9 on e85 doing my 20 mile a day round trip to/from work.
What the hell? Fucking emissions on newer vehicles are a joke.

I get 8-10 around town, and 12-14 highway in an '86 Ford F250 long bed, extracab, 4x4, with a 460, 5 speed and 35" mudders.
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Buying a new truck is not economical at all, so that's your first problem.

Buying a diesel pickup for "economy" stopped being a thing in about 2000-2003 when the price of diesel became based on BTUs (i.e. more than gas), so that's strike two.

When they EGR'd, DPF'd, and urea'd everything they really screwed them up. Poor mileage, more maintenance and higher running costs.

So the answer you didn't want is to not buy a new truck. Buy a used gasser.
The biggest issue is used trucks selling for practically what new trucks do and unless you're paying cash, better financing options usually offest the cost of a new truck.
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The biggest issue is used trucks selling for practically what new trucks do and unless you're paying cash, better financing options usually offest the cost of a new truck.
This. With rebates I've seen new prices below used. I've been looking at a work truck. $38k for brand new seems like a better deal than 28-30k with 50-100k miles.
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Snow plowing and hauling a sander.
You need 2 vehicles. Something that gets good MPG's for the bugs deal and the truck for the snow/towing duties. I bet if you run the numbers the car might even pay for itself.
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You need 2 vehicles. Something that gets good MPG's for the bugs deal and the truck for the snow/towing duties. I bet if you run the numbers the car might even pay for itself.
the bug guys around here use small s10s. sagged out with the weight of the liquid treatment, but seems to work for them
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the bug guys around here use small s10s. sagged out with the weight of the liquid treatment, but seems to work for them
There are tons of those tiny new cargo van things out there. Chevy has the city express and nissan has the SV200. All get 20+ mpg city. He could wrap it and promote his business or both businesses.
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Does anybody have a 2017 or 18 three-quarter ton gas or diesel and what kind of real fuel mileage are you getting?
Girlfriend has a stock 15 duramax 4x4 srw crew cab. In town (literally stop and go under 50mph) the truck averages 13.5. I drove it from TX to NY airing it out over 80mph+ when possible. Hand calc 19.5. Its driving characteristics are that of a gasser. It really doesnt wake up till 2k rpm. Ive been told thats the tourque managment and can be tune out. Otherwise, it effortlessly runs down the highway and I doubt you'll notice a 5k behind you. DEF is a pain in the ass, but it's something you can live with.

Fuck the "ratings" of a new half ton. Only 10% of the towing capacity is the tongue weight. Who the hell loads a trailer like that?
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I have a crew cab long bed 4x4 Chevy 2500 6.0 gas 16 model. I get 15 mpg driving around Colorado, 14 or so in Texas. it has dropped as low as 7 pulling big loads. but so have all my diesels. I love the low end grunt of the diesels, but it is to easy anymore to have a 5000 dollar repair bill on one. I have a few duramaxes, a 6o ford and a have had a bunch of cummins rigs, and I bought a new gas truck. I'm waiting on a set of lb7 injectors to get back from the rebuilder right now.
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BIL has a 2016 4 door shorted 4x4 with the 6.0. He has been tracking mileage since he got it and averages around 10-11 in town, and anywhere from 13-16 on the highway. I have a 2010, and get around 10 in town, and 11-13 on the highway.


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Would have been good to know in the initial post.

In that case, buy a WT truck with gasser. The truck will be destroyed long before the diesel would ever pay for itself.
Fick that. I'm in this thing all day long. Denali. Future work Rig will be the dodge utility van things.
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BIL has a 2016 4 door shorted 4x4 with the 6.0. He has been tracking mileage since he got it and averages around 10-11 in town, and anywhere from 13-16 on the highway. I have a 2010, and get around 10 in town, and 11-13 on the highway.


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That's about what I see with my ram 3500 5.7 gasser with 4.10s and 35's, about 8 towing. My calculations were a 10 year 100k payoff for the diesel, as long as it didn't break. I can throw a reman 5.7 engine in my truck for about the cost of diesel injectors.
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