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Old 10-01-2017, 09:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Mitsubishi Outlander - The Perfect Nothing Special Reliable SUV?

The wife and I are looking to replace her 170k old BMW 330xi with a small SUV. The BMW has been great, but the continued minor repairs are starting to annoy both of us. She drives 25k miles a year, so any car is going to be run into the ground in short order.

When looking at a new car, we both would like something with more cargo room, similar MPG, AWD, and more reliable. She is really after a small SUV that is easy to park in the city, I really want something with extra cargo room, so we don't have to replace it when our family grows.

After test driving a few SUV's we both agreed on the Mitsubishi Outlander. It has leather, AWD, a 29mpg 4cyl, and seats 7. Price is right at ~28k. While the reviews are terrible, it seems to perfectly match what we are looking for... but at a price 10k less than a Rav4.

Is there something I'm missing with this thing? It seems like a perfect nothing-special reliable compact SUV, with the added bonus of seating 7.
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Old 10-01-2017, 09:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, if it gets awful reviews better be planning on driving it into the dirt because resell value will be garbage.
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Let me add the cars we have driven already:


Mitsubishi Outlander: <-- TOP PICK
  • Interior felt nicer than most of the market
  • A lot of car for under 30k
  • Large cargo area
  • 3rd row seats are too small for a 5 year old, but a nice bonus to take people across town.
  • Really liked the size - its one of the few compact SUV's that still compact
  • Surprised how much I liked the (really basic) android-type stereo

Subaru Crosstrek:
  • Interior felt like it would rip easy
  • Suprised at the 30k pricetag
  • Cargo area too small for a dog
  • I see too many of these burning oil on my commute to take them seriously

Toyota 4Runner:
  • Interior felt dated compared to other SUV's
  • For 40k, we felt like our money was well spent
  • Liked the 7 seat capability
  • Truck felt much bigger than it is
  • Wife decided she didn't want to feel like she is driving a truck every day
  • If we went this route, we would probably wait for the 2019 to come out

Toyota Rav4:
  • Really liked the interior
  • Trunk was big enough
  • Surprised it isn't offered with an engine over 170hp
  • There is no way I'm paying 39k OTD for a small SUV

Hyundai Tuscon:
  • Nothing special
  • Outlander felt better in every way

Others we have talked about, but not driven:

Range Rover Evoque:
  • Only makes sense if we buy a used one, and there is no way the wife wants another used car right now
  • Both of us are slightly concerned the maintenance will be similar to the BMW

Ford Flex:
  • Wife hates how they look and won't drive one.

Honda CRV:
  • Wife isn't a fan of the looks.
  • Since the price is almost identical to the Rav4, we both would prefer the Toyota.
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Nothing to add really but every mitsu I've ever been around in the last 10 years turned to a raging pile of shit in short order.
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FWIW, my mom has a couple year old Rav4. Roomy, quiet, disgustingly good MPG and surprisingly quick and nimble. A tad small for my needs, but a solid choice.

EDIT - Not to mention Toyota resale when it's time to upgrade.
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FWIW, my mom has a couple year old Rav4. Roomy, quiet, disgustingly good MPG and surprisingly quick and nimble. A tad small for my needs, but a solid choice.

EDIT - Not to mention Toyota resale when it's time to upgrade.
This. There is a reason why they cost more.
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drove the smaller mitsu SUV for a while as a rental, thing was a ripper compared to what i expected. no clue how well they hold up long term, but as a well abused rental it did rather well aside from the grab handles getting ripped off.

everything else was tight, no squeaks, decent MPG, decent space, awd, cvt seemed to be about the best programmed of all the cvt econoboxes i've been in
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2018 and up I believe has the Nissan CVT transmission so avoid those. Other than that Iíve seen nothing really bad on the Mitsubishi boards. AVOID the evoque, Discovery sport, lr2. All terrible products on that platform.

My 06 Montero has 202k and runs and drives so well you wouldnít know it has that many miles. Interior has held up phenomenally. Itís slow is my big complaint.


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I see no problem with the Mitsubishi for your situation.

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This. There is a reason why they cost more.
Yes. 9-parts hype and 1-part substance.

Just because you're paying more and getting more doesn't mean the amount more you get for the amount more you pay is in any way reasonable.
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Nothing to add really but every mitsu I've ever been around in the last 10 years turned to a raging pile of shit in short order.
This.. worked on a lot of makes and was never impressed when a mitsu rolled into the shop.

Toyotas feel dated or boring now but they age much better than other makes, and you'll be able to sell it when you're done.


What about the Ford lineup... Escape, Edge, Explorer? Ford has really upped their game in recent years.

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Call the parts department and ask availability of a few items.

Dunno much on late model Mitsu quality, but one thing that scares me about smaller volume (US) makes is parts availability. Aftermarket coverage is less, and often dealer warehouse networks are not same day/next day. Would suck to have standard repairs be 3-4 day waits.

eta- if you don't live close to the dealer, add an extra day or two for your local shop to get the parts from the dealer.
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Yes. 9-parts hype and 1-part substance.

Just because you're paying more and getting more doesn't mean the amount more you get for the amount more you pay is in any way reasonable.
Disagree. 100%.
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Yes. 9-parts hype and 1-part substance.

Just because you're paying more and getting more doesn't mean the amount more you get for the amount more you pay is in any way reasonable.
Keep telling yourself that.
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Yes. 9-parts hype and 1-part substance.

Just because you're paying more and getting more doesn't mean the amount more you get for the amount more you pay is in any way reasonable.
This is what people that are willing to settle for a crappy vehicle tell themselves.


Op, Mitsubishi sucks. Their dealer network sucks. Their warranty service sucks. And their cars suck.
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Op, Mitsubishi sucks. Their dealer network sucks. Their warranty service sucks. And their cars suck.
Didn't mitsu make the engines for the dodge cars and mini-vans of the 90's and 2000's that are almost always seen rolling clouds of blue smoke? Seems like I have heard of a lot of internal engine issues with mitsus. premature wear, crank walk, bearings...

Sounds like OP needs a windstar.
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Didn't mitsu make the engines for the dodge cars and mini-vans of the 90's and 2000's that are almost always seen rolling clouds of blue smoke? Seems like I have heard of a lot of internal engine issues with mitsus. premature wear, crank walk, bearings...

Sounds like OP needs a windstar.
Yes.. You parents had one. It started drinking oil almost immediately. I think they ended up getting that POS lemon lawed.
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the reviews are terrible
In what way? Reliability? Comfort? Fit and finish?...
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Have you looked at the Subaru Outback? Bought one through the Cost Co hookup and while I am not a wagon person, it has just been a real handy vehicle to have around. We paid it off and plan on running the wheels off of it. The all wheel drive is very good on them. Room for two kids and the dog.
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FWIW, my mom has a couple year old Rav4. Roomy, quiet, disgustingly good MPG and surprisingly quick and nimble. A tad small for my needs, but a solid choice.

EDIT - Not to mention Toyota resale when it's time to upgrade.
My sister has a Rav4 as well, probably 3-ish years old. Nice little car, enough room for her and her german shepherd mix and cargo. Don't think she's had any problems with it
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Sounds like OP needs a windstar.
Fuck that.

Aerostar all the way. Install a lunchbox locker and do burnouts for distance when you pick the kids up from soccer

A 302 probably fits under the hood with a little BFH treatment.
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