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Old 01-10-2018, 03:03 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Fourth year vet student, so take my advice as you will. For large wounds (and I've seen many, you can only imagine what large animals can do to themselves) we commonly use raw honey to cover large areas, especially in the field where stall or barn rest just isn't an option for some livestock. Change your dressing regularly, and apply once daily and cover (I prefer to use tagaderm) making sure to wash the wound before application. Make sure to watch out for necrotic tissue, debride as necessary.
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Fourth year vet student, so take my advice as you will. For large wounds (and I've seen many, you can only imagine what large animals can do to themselves) we commonly use raw honey to cover large areas, especially in the field where stall or barn rest just isn't an option for some livestock. Change your dressing regularly, and apply once daily and cover (I prefer to use tagaderm) making sure to wash the wound before application. Make sure to watch out for necrotic tissue, debride as necessary.
Not *really* funny, but it makes me chuckle that a large animal vet is offering medical advice to CG.

If we were in the post apocalyptic world, I'd suggest about the same.

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Fourth year vet student, so take my advice as you will. For large wounds (and I've seen many, you can only imagine what large animals can do to themselves) we commonly use raw honey to cover large areas, especially in the field where stall or barn rest just isn't an option for some livestock. Change your dressing regularly, and apply once daily and cover (I prefer to use tagaderm) making sure to wash the wound before application. Make sure to watch out for necrotic tissue, debride as necessary.
Betadine and sugar paste also works well to help regrow tissue and keep out infection. The dairy my wife used to work at used it and she has seen it do amazing things to help regrow tissue and keep out infection.

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Fourth year vet student, so take my advice as you will. For large wounds (and I've seen many, you can only imagine what large animals can do to themselves) we commonly use raw honey to cover large areas, especially in the field where stall or barn rest just isn't an option for some livestock. Change your dressing regularly, and apply once daily and cover (I prefer to use tagaderm) making sure to wash the wound before application. Make sure to watch out for necrotic tissue, debride as necessary.
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Not *really* funny, but it makes me chuckle that a large animal vet is offering medical advice to CG.

If we were in the post apocalyptic world, I'd suggest about the same.

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Oh, that’s funny right there!!!

If you’ve ever seen the YouTube channel Demolition Ranch. The guy is a vet and he always ends his videos with “ you can trust me I’m a doctor...ish”.
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I say fight fire with fire, take a torch to it- burn all those bad bacteria out. And video it for edumacational purposes..


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Again, i have lots of experience with wound care and its one of my specialties in my practice.
It falls under my use of Laser which i have been doing for over 8 years now.
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Betadine and sugar paste also works well to help regrow tissue and keep out infection. The dairy my wife used to work at used it and she has seen it do amazing things to help regrow tissue and keep out infection.

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The ideas are similar (you have to remember that sugar promotes bacterial growth), but honey's antimicrobial properties are inherent without the risk of damaging more tissue (betadine can cause tissue damage if not diluted properly).
I know honey seems "out there", but is commonly used in hospitals throughout the world in treatment of burns.
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The ideas are similar (you have to remember that sugar promotes bacterial growth), but honey's antimicrobial properties are inherent without the risk of damaging more tissue (betadine can cause tissue damage if not diluted properly).
I know honey seems "out there", but is commonly used in hospitals throughout the world in treatment of burns.
thanks for the info.
it made me search a bit to find out more about honey, what type and how to apply it.
i found a couple good papers on various types of honey and a detailed paper on medihoney.
very interesting reads.

i know its animals, but is it medihoney(brand name) or some other medical grade honey dressings you are using or ?
thanks.

these two were good reads...

http://https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...es/PMC2686636/


http://http://www.woundsresearch.com...obial-efficacy
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I know I’m late to the party … I have a degree in Nuclear Medicine and have been on a Interventional Radiology team using fluoroscopy as we treat cancer patients. Ask the MD for a referral for wound care and in the interim, put Silvadene Cream on the area and loosely wrap it. … but what do I know, in my village I am the idiot!
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The ideas are similar (you have to remember that sugar promotes bacterial growth), but honey's antimicrobial properties are inherent without the risk of damaging more tissue (betadine can cause tissue damage if not diluted properly).
I know honey seems "out there", but is commonly used in hospitals throughout the world in treatment of burns.
thanks for the info.
it made me search a bit to find out more about honey, what type and how to apply it.
i found a couple good papers on various types of honey and a detailed paper on medihoney.
very interesting reads.

i know its animals, but is it medihoney(brand name) or some other medical grade honey dressings you are using or ?
thanks.

these two were good reads...

http://https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...es/PMC2686636/


http://http://www.woundsresearch.com...obial-efficacy
With animals in the field, raw honey seems to offer no issues. I suppose with people we should probably use filtered honey to remove as many pollens as possible (to limit possibilities of allergic reactions).

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Not that CG is going to go this route, but keep in mind that the honey you buy in the supermarket is usually full of corn syrup or other additives to make the real honey go farther. As was said, you want raw honey.
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I think the homey that works best is Manuka honey from new Zealand.
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Someone say New Zealand homey?

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