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Old 03-23-2018, 02:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4th gen or 5th gen 4runners?

Grandma and Grandpa are looking to get a 4runner. Will pull his boat <3,000lbs. They have 10-15K to spend.

I've only ever owned 4runners up to 3rd gen so know nothing about the newer ones. Would it be smarter for the folks to stick to getting a 4th gen with low miles or try and find a 5th gen at higher mileage? Any input at all is appreciated. They're shopping around the Sacramento area, FWIW. Thanks.
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Old 03-23-2018, 03:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd look for a 4th gen with a V8. A 3000lb boat should be OK as long as they're not going up to Tahoe.
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Toyota-4runner.org is a good forum. Do a bunch of reading.
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I'd look for a 4th gen with a V8. A 3000lb boat should be OK as long as they're not going up to Tahoe.
I agree I just bought my son one to replace his Taco'ed Tacoma

12,500 they really hold there value here in AZ they were also hard to come by when i was shopping
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You're not even CLOSE to getting a 5th gen here for less than 20k unless it's a clapped out high mileage example. .02 Way more bang for the buck in 4th gen. .02
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Old 03-23-2018, 04:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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2004 V8 4Runner Limited here. It's decent, but my MIL's '03 Tahoe will flat blow it's doors off. The biggest issue with the 4th gens (not sure about the 5th) is the transfer case. I didn't know it was a problem, so I never thought to check it on the test drive. They are full-time t-cases with a dial on the dash to shift from hi to low range. Guess what? Toyota made the shift system so complicated, that if they aren't used regularly, they no longer shift into low range as the mechanism gets corroded. Stupid design.

Mine struggles to shift into low and there have been times where it flat refuses.

Granted, your GP's probably aren't using low range all that often, but something to be aware of.

The Lexus GX470 version gets a lever to shift into low range. Go figure on that...

If I had it to do over, I would buy the GX over the 4Runner as they seem to be better taken care of and cost roughly the same for more luxury.

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2004 V8 4Runner Limited here. It's decent, but my MIL's '03 Tahoe will flat blow it's doors off. The biggest issue with the 4th gens (not sure about the 5th) is the transfer case. I didn't know it was a problem, so I never thought to check it on the test drive. They are full-time t-cases with a dial on the dash to shift from hi to low range. Guess what? Toyota made the shift system so complicated, that if they aren't used regularly, they no longer shift into low range as the mechanism gets corroded. Stupid design.

Mine struggles to shift into low and there have been times where it flat refuses.

Granted, your GP's probably aren't using low range all that often, but something to be aware of.

The Lexus GX470 version gets a lever to shift into low range. Go figure on that...

If I had it to do over, I would buy the GX over the 4Runner as they seem to be better taken care of and cost roughly the same for more luxury.

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A 3000lb boat should be OK as long as they're not going up to Tahoe.
Oof. They do like to go to Tahoe with the boat. I think they usually take 88 more often than 49/50, though. Does it struggle going over the grade or what?

After checking a bunch CL ads it sure looks like 4th gen is the way to go. Only saw a single 5th and it was salvage title with high miles. I'll be sure to have them check the low range during any test drive for sure. Thanks for all the feedback.
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Get a 100 series land cruiser. 98-99s are $5-6k and can tow 6500 lbs. 9.5" rear instead of the 8" on the 4Runner too.
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
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2004 V8 4Runner Limited here. It's decent, but my MIL's '03 Tahoe will flat blow it's doors off.
Yep, wife had an '05 SR5 until recently. Good solid, reliable vehicle but those 4th gen engines were adequate at best. My '04 Tahoe smoked it in every way. Hence why we turned them both into a '13 Yukon Denali. Haven't driven a 5th gen 4runner so not sure if they're any better, but you're not touching one for $15k anyway.
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Get the v8. Nearly the same fuel economy as the v6 but way more power.

I can attest to towing 11k cross county with one. They flat out work.
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Get the v8. Nearly the same fuel economy as the v6 but way more power.

I can attest to towing 11k cross county with one. They flat out work.
I always questioned the numbers on those V8s. On paper, they have basically the same torque as a GM 5.3 and only about 25 fewer horses and the thing weighs about 1000 pounds less than a Tahoe, but damn if that 5.3 in the Tahoe doesn't feel considerably stouter.
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Get the v8. Nearly the same fuel economy as the v6 but way more power.

I can attest to towing 11k cross county with one. They flat out work.
That must have been miserable. I towed a 19' travel trailer from CA to Yellowstone to CO with my 100 and got a nice 7mpg. Ouray to Silverton was 1st gear over most passes. It did great, just slow and thirsty.
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That must have been miserable. I towed a 19' travel trailer from CA to Yellowstone to CO with my 100 and got a nice 7mpg. Ouray to Silverton was 1st gear over most passes. It did great, just slow and thirsty.
The one I had was an 07. It was in 3rd gear and produced a whopping 7.8 mpg at 80 mph. Unloaded it got 19.5.

I was always surprised how it would pull at any speed I wanted up any grade. It was significantly more powerful towing than a 100.

In total, I put 40k of towing miles on the 4Runner and thought it was excellent.
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We have a 2013, we don't have any complaints about it,
we use it to pull our 19ft boat around with no problems whatsoever.
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