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Old 05-31-2018, 05:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Best place for hiring a machinist?

Looking to get the opinion of the machinists on here, both manual and CNC side. We're in need of both, particularly a CNC operator and programmer. Where do machinists typically look for jobs? We've tried Monster, CL, Indeed, and are working on trying ZipRecruiter. Also asked local tech colleges and schools but most of them already have a gig lined up or aren't up to our tasks.

Anyone have a good source we can push out some job ads?
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Old 05-31-2018, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Indeed has always worked well for me.

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Look into NDSCS. They have a CNC program and do job fairs.

This will give you an idea of they'll have the training you want. https://www.ndscs.edu/academics/thin...ing-technology
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Didn't see that on crapatalk. No wonder he can't find a machinist worth a damn
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Guess your pay is shit and cost of living is high. Here we go again.

On a serious note, I know a guy but you would be hard pressed to get him to leave his current gig.
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so uh, how much are we talking about here?

I might happen to be or know a machinist who is manual and cnc and such and lives in olympia

full time or part time?
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If your company is anything like the one I work for they can not find anyone because they want to pay $5 for a $15 job. We can not even get people in the door, price point is too low.

Who would want to do a skilled labor job for the same return they can get from Home Depot.

Does not matter the medium you look through, end of the day odds are the price point is off.
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If your company is anything like the one I work for they can not find anyone because they want to pay $5 for a $15 job. We can not even get people in the door, price point is too low.

Who would want to do a skilled labor job for the same return they can get from Home Depot.

Does not matter the medium you look through, end of the day odds are the price point is off.


This is very true.

My sister runs manual and CNC machine for a mining services company. She makes $30/hr, and I've told her that's way too low to be responsible for the machines she's running. She sent me a picture the other day off 10k lbs of brass sitting in the mill.
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Indeed has always worked well for me.

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Look into NDSCS. They have a CNC program and do job fairs.

This will give you an idea of they'll have the training you want. https://www.ndscs.edu/academics/thin...ing-technology
I'll look into this, sounds right up our alley. Hopefully we can find some decent recruits.

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so uh, how much are we talking about here?

I might happen to be or know a machinist who is manual and cnc and such and lives in olympia

full time or part time?
Full time. We don't really hire part time. Pay is based on experience and if you can hit the target dimensions in the allowed time per the given drawing.

Majority of the people I have interviewed do not have actual CNC experience. They pushed a couple buttons once and think they can handle any CNC. We're not going to throw money at another stacked resume, each person has to prove they can program and machine. I've had three guys we've hired claim they can program and edit gcode and run them but can't do either. They get shown the door after a couple weeks of this. Now they have a PE with our software and machines. This is with standard HAAS controls and brand new 4 axis mill and a older cnc lathe.

Lots of manual guys that want $50/hr but need 3 hours to read the drawing before they'll start. Had a guy claim he was a 20+ year journeyman then spend 6 hours on a single part that took 15 minutes for my other machinists. We have solid 40 hour weeks, they're not going to lose money by getting the job done. It's a job shop, but they're paid hourly not by job. What I've noticed is a whole lot of resume fluff and bullshit with the shitty attitude of "pay me, I deserve it" without much to back it up.
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If your company is anything like the one I work for they can not find anyone because they want to pay $5 for a $15 job. We can not even get people in the door, price point is too low.

Who would want to do a skilled labor job for the same return they can get from Home Depot.

Does not matter the medium you look through, end of the day odds are the price point is off.
This is where the shop I work for is at too. They think they can hire kids fresh out of HS or Vo-Tech and pay them $12 to start. They can't figure out why they can't get anyone to apply. The ones that do start either aren't worth that to sweep the floors or they stay 3-4 years for the experience then go elsewhere for $10 more an hour just to start. I have been here 21 years and I am underpaid for what I do but being a CNC OD/ID grinder is hard to find a shop that has one. It's getting old constantly training a new wave of greenhorns only to have them quit a few years later. Management doesn't seem to realize this though. You can't get decent skilled help when the Home Depot/Walmart stockers are making just as much to start.
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Your machinists know machinists, that's how you get the best ones. But if your shop sucks, well good luck.
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Lots of manual guys that want $50/hr .
shit, if you are willing to pay $50/hour and I only have to work 40hour weeks, I might just quit my job right now and pay my own benefits
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You can't get decent skilled help when the Home Depot/Walmart stockers are making just as much to start.
good point, target has a large warehouse/distro center down the street with a massive sign advertising starting pay around $17/hour or so last time I looked....damn lot of money to sling boxes and wrap pallets.
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I see a trend of companies wanting exact matches for software/hardware experience. Sometimes looking for someone with similar skills who isn't a fawkwhit and spend a month training is the best investment. Nationally our automated HR bullshit is the huge barrier to finding people. I keep hearing of the labor shortage, but companies that can't find people are generally shit to work for, pay shit, or have morons doing recruiting. This isn't 2009.
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This is where the shop I work for is at too. They think they can hire kids fresh out of HS or Vo-Tech and pay them $12 to start. They can't figure out why they can't get anyone to apply. The ones that do start either aren't worth that to sweep the floors or they stay 3-4 years for the experience then go elsewhere for $10 more an hour just to start. I have been here 21 years and I am underpaid for what I do but being a CNC OD/ID grinder is hard to find a shop that has one. It's getting old constantly training a new wave of greenhorns only to have them quit a few years later. Management doesn't seem to realize this though. You can't get decent skilled help when the Home Depot/Walmart stockers are making just as much to start.
our grinders make 40 plus an hour here in texas. but were not hiring right now.
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I constantly get calls from headhunters. Most of them are not paying shit. They want to pay the same as what they were paying 20 years ago. I have pretty much left machining and gone back out in the field as it pays better.

It's pretty fucked up when a dumbass (My GF) can get a job with ATT installing cable and in 2 years be making more than a machinist (Me) with 30 years of experience who has his own tools.

If I could figure a way to get out of the mess I am in without loosing My ass, I would be gone in a heart beat.
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This is where the shop I work for is at too. They think they can hire kids fresh out of HS or Vo-Tech and pay them $12 to start. They can't figure out why they can't get anyone to apply. The ones that do start either aren't worth that to sweep the floors or they stay 3-4 years for the experience then go elsewhere for $10 more an hour just to start. I have been here 21 years and I am underpaid for what I do but being a CNC OD/ID grinder is hard to find a shop that has one. It's getting old constantly training a new wave of greenhorns only to have them quit a few years later. Management doesn't seem to realize this though. You can't get decent skilled help when the Home Depot/Walmart stockers are making just as much to start.
I use the home depot analogy all the time at work. We have apprentices that make ~$13 an hour. After they complete their 4 years they will be bumped to ~$20/hr. Management can not figure out why they all leave after they finish. Its because the place down the street will start them at $27/hr

I am a toolmaker/project engineer, and do not make anywhere near what I should. If I was not in NJ I would say my pay rate is decent (ish) but here is does not go far. For me I took it to get back into the industry after taking a few years off to finish my degree. I like the job, but its hard to justify the lack of pay.
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