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Old 11-30-2018, 12:50 PM   #326 (permalink)
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If she is actually charged with murder, she will get off.
That's an odd fetish.
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That's an odd fetish.

She's white. White bitches got all the odd fetishes.
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:55 PM   #328 (permalink)
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yeah, but it won't be by choice and some butch named hulga will get off a few times first

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If...she is actually charged with murder, I will admit that I was wrong on the charge.

If she is, I'm still willing to bet she won't be found guilty.
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Correction: An earlier version of this article said that Guyger was indicted on a charge of manslaughter. The officer has been indicted on a murder charge. The headline and article have been updated to reflect this change.
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If...she is actually charged with murder, I will admit that I was wrong on the charge.

If she is, I'm still willing to bet she won't be found guilty.
The DA charged her with manslaughter, the grand jury upgraded to murder, the DA wont be able to prove murder, she will be found innocent, people will protest, the DA will be blamed.
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The DA charged her with manslaughter, the grand jury upgraded to murder, the DA wont be able to prove murder, she will be found innocent, people will protest, the DA will be blamed.
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the lead investigative agency, Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson said at a news conference.

When asked why the grand jury indicted Guyger on the more serious offense of murder, Johnson replied, "We presented the evidence and we explained the law."

Johnson said murder constitutes someone "intentionally and knowingly" committing a crime, whereas manslaughter involves "recklessly doing something."

"At the moment of the shooting it was a knowing ... offense," Johnson said.
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it will be interesting to see what happens at court and i'll be sure to try and follow when updates come out
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:40 PM   #332 (permalink)
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The DA charged her with manslaughter, the grand jury upgraded to murder, the DA wont be able to prove murder, she will be found innocent, people will protest, the DA will be blamed.
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The DA charged her with manslaughter, the grand jury upgraded to murder, the DA wont be able to prove murder, she will be found innocent, people will protest, the DA will be blamed.
Kind of reads like the DA was hoping for a murder charge but didn't want to stick her own neck out for it:

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Guyger was arrested on a manslaughter charge three days after the Sept. 6 shooting, prompting criticism that the original charge was too lenient. But Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson said at the time that the grand jury could upgrade the charge, which it did Friday.

"When you look at the facts of this case, we thought that it was murder all along," Johnson said.
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Can't they charge and try her for both and let the jury decide what level of offense to convict her of? I know I've seen that done before but not sure if Texas law allows that.
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Can't they charge and try her for both and let the jury decide what level of offense to convict her of? I know I've seen that done before but not sure if Texas law allows that.
That is part of why texas only has 1 murder charge, but 2 murder conviction options.

the jury can decide if it fits murder the stronger or murder the weaker depending on how court goes and the initial charge remains 'murder'
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DALLAS (AP) – A date has been set for the murder trial of a white former Dallas police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black man in his own apartment.

Court records show that Amber Guyger is scheduled to begin a jury trial on Monday, Aug. 12, less than a year after she shot Botham Jean, whose apartment she says she mistook for her own.

Guyger was arrested on a manslaughter charge three days after the Sept. 6 shooting of her neighbor, a 26-year-old native of the Caribbean island of St. Lucia who worked in Dallas for an accounting and consulting firm.

The case drew national attention and the initial charge was criticized as being lenient. Guyger was fired from the Dallas Police Department later in September. A grand jury indicted her for murder in November.
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So, if you were on the jury, does this help or hurt her case?
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made it almost 2 minutes.

that only further verifies the murder charge. fuck her. also of note she says "I'm in apt" whatever the fuck.

sure, she could still try to say she never crossed the threshold before firing indiscriminately into a room, but i'm not buying it. More convinced now than previously that she entered before/while firing
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made it almost 2 minutes.

that only further verifies the murder charge. fuck her. also of note she says "I'm in apt" whatever the fuck.

sure, she could still try to say she never crossed the threshold before firing indiscriminately into a room, but i'm not buying it. More convinced now than previously that she entered before/while firing

I got the opposite out of it.
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My guess is she'll get manslaughter if it's allowed.
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made it almost 2 minutes.

that only further verifies the murder charge. fuck her. also of note she says "I'm in apt" whatever the fuck.

sure, she could still try to say she never crossed the threshold before firing indiscriminately into a room, but i'm not buying it. More convinced now than previously that she entered before/while firing
that makes absolutely zero sense.

what does crossing the threshold have to do with anything? Of course she entered, she thought it was her apt. Just because she does or does not go into an apt has no bearing on whether she had a perceived justification to fire at someone in the apt.
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Of course I can't see what she is doing, but my initial impression is that she is more worried about losing her job than helping the dude she shot.
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Of course I can't see what she is doing, but my initial impression is that she is more worried about losing her job than helping the dude she shot.
it's not that simple. but that is going to hurt her regardless
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Of course I can't see what she is doing, but my initial impression is that she is more worried about losing her job than helping the dude she shot.
That's was my first impression but that changed the more I listened. I think she was genuinely in a fucked state in her head and clearly rambling. To me her reaction clearly showed a "mistake". Granted it was a huge fuckup of a "mistake", it painted a picture of it not being planned or murder.

I do however think she should get the toughest penalties that can come from manslaughter.
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it's not that simple. but that is going to hurt her regardless
Probably not, but the prosecution is likely going to make that argument.

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That's was my first impression but that changed the more I listened. I think she was genuinely in a fucked state in her head and clearly rambling. To me her reaction clearly showed a "mistake". Granted it was a huge fuckup of a "mistake", it painted a picture of it not being planned or murder.

I do however think she should get the toughest penalties that can come from manslaughter.
Good points. It did sound more like a mistake than something she planned to do or even wanted to happen. Too bad cops are taught to shoot first and ask questions later.
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that makes absolutely zero sense.

what does crossing the threshold have to do with anything? Of course she entered, she thought it was her apt. Just because she does or does not go into an apt has no bearing on whether she had a perceived justification to fire at someone in the apt.
they were very clear, after her coaching of course, that she never crossed the threshold prior to firing at him.

IF she crossed the threshold, she entered his space illegally and this is a capital case easy; regardless of her 'thinking it was her place'

IF she did not, then it might be argued for non-capital as her only illegal act was killing the guy, but not while in commission of another crime (entering).

she never had justification, that will be very well established. is she worthy of death or just a less prison time? that will be a threshold argument
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There’s no fucking way she did not cross the threshold. Dumb bitch murdered him.
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That's was my first impression but that changed the more I listened. I think she was genuinely in a fucked state in her head and clearly rambling. To me her reaction clearly showed a "mistake". Granted it was a huge fuckup of a "mistake", it painted a picture of it not being planned or murder.

I do however think she should get the toughest penalties that can come from manslaughter.
it DOES NOT MATTER if she went there INTENDING TO KILL HIM in this case.

this was not a fuckup like "oops, i forgot to properly strap my load and a beam killed the guy following me on the freeway"

her deliberate, intentional and from rational mind, actions from the moment she became aware of his presence directly resulted in his death.

she was not so delirious as to have been unable to drive, or work and did not cause suspicion of being wrongly minded leaving work not long before
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Probably not, but the prosecution is likely going to make that argument.

Percentages say this case isn't going to a jury. They'll plea it down to something she can live with.
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made it through the rest of it

zero fucking remorse for killing the dude

when she is 'talking to him'; i'm curious if he had any sign of life. dude dying while listening to somebody complain about how they need a supervisor or might lose their job.

"i'm so tired" yeah that is the adrenaline wearing off
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